Sudbury needs massive change: Bruce Mau

Former Sudbury resident Bruce Mau, an internationally published author and advocate for urban change, told 500 people at Cambrian College Tuesday evening that while the city has changed dramatically since he grew up here, more change is needed. Photo by Bill Bradley.

Former Sudbury resident Bruce Mau, an internationally published author and advocate for urban change, told 500 people at Cambrian College Tuesday evening that while the city has changed dramatically since he grew up here, more change is needed. Photo by Bill Bradley.

Nov 12, 2009- 3:30 PM

By: Bill Bradley - Sudbury Northern Life

Greater Sudbury has changed dramatically in the past decades, but more change is needed if Sudbury is to continue to grow, diversify, and keep youth here, said speakers at an innovation meeting held Tuesday, Nov. 10, at Cambrian College.

“We have gone from having no tourist attractions to having the second most important Science Centre in Canada. We have gone from having a local hospital to hosting a regional hospital site. We have gone from sending students out of town for post secondary education to being the centre for post secondary education in the north,” said John Rodriguez, Greater Sudbury mayor, explaining how the city has embraced change.

Rodriguez introduced the main speaker and former Sudbury resident Bruce Mau, a published author and advocate for urban change.

The meeting was held by Imagine Sudbury, a citizens group seeking to revitalize the downtown area.

“When I was a child growing up here, when there was a strike (by mine workers), most of the men left town,” said Mau, commenting on how much Greater Sudbury has changed since he grew up here as a child.

Mau's presentation included a slide show, complete with a hundred examples of innovative organizations, projects, and accomplishments from all over the world. Included on the list were environmental, business, cultural and educational achievements, some from Greater Sudbury.

“Sudbury has been known for its mines," said Mau. "But one organization, NORCAT, is working towards mining the moon.”

Mau spoke about his four principles of urban revitalization:

  1. Compete with beauty: money and talent are attracted to beauty
  2. Make community design open to the community itself: invite the public into the process
  3. Design the “nature” of the city: imagine the city as a giant park
  4. Match actions to words: Do things that emphasize what we want to "say" about where we live

Mau also pointed out that Greater Sudbury has 330 lakes within its boundaries. Protecting and building on this natural beauty was part of his first suggested principle in the re-designing of Greater Sudbury.

“We have an extraordinary landscape that is unique in the world. Compete with beauty. Money and talent are mobile today. They go to beautiful places.”

But beauty is more than physical places like lakes, he stressed.

“If you want them, those with money and talent, then you must have beautiful food, ideas, experiences, not just physical beauty.”

A slide of two different roadways, one an appealing tree-lined highway in New England and the other, a slide of a local highway showing bare rock and a lack of vegetation, emphasized his point.

“The message conveyed here to our youth is that we do not care about where we live. So you might as well leave town.”

That resonated with Vale Inco's spokesperson, Steve Ball.

“I found it inspiring when he said that highways should be developed by engineers and designers. We could have these beautiful roadways here too,” said Ball.

Stéphane Gauthier, artistic director of le Carrefour francophone and member of Imagine Sudbury, said he approves of Mau's idea that beauty also refers to culture.

“No one has this much (cultural) complexity in such a small area (as Greater Sudbury). We have French, English, Finnish, Chinese and aboriginal community events,” said Gauthier.

The recent Patricia Cano concert at Little Montreal, organized by le Carrefour francophone, was used to demonstrate the cultural complexity.

“Patricia sang in English, French, Spanish and Portuguese. Everyone there felt included. All business (for the concert) was done in French. Both shows were sold out. She had eight world class musicians on stage. It was very uplifting to be there,” said Gauthier.

The second principle suggested by Mau was to open the planning process up to the public.

That resounded with Dave Kilgour, who has been part of a planning initiative for the Northern Ontario Railway Museum and Heritage Centre (NORM). They have opened the planning process for the museum to the public.

“We have been inviting Capreol residents to come up with ideas for the museum,” said Kilgour, explaining that one person had a great idea to bring more people, especially students, to the museum for a reasonable price.

“He said 'why not partner with the railway? Have the kids brought downtown to the station and have them ride the train to the museum on Mondays when the bud car is not being used. That is cheaper than arranging bus transportation. Some of these children may never have been on a train before.' Our committee thought that was an excellent idea.”

Kilgour said he also appreciated that Mau was getting people to think beyond the immediate.

“Our plans for the museum are to have it as the third major tourist attraction after Science North and Dynamic Earth. We are thinking outside the box.”

Mau's third principle to imagine the whole city as a park was an idea that made sense to retired Laurentian University sociologist John Elliott.

“When you think of it, we only have one park: Bell Park. It has the amphitheatre and the boardwalk beside the lake as an enhancement. The other parks we have are mainly developed as swimming beaches with some parkland.”

Elliott cautioned that he thought innovative ideas, like the ideas proposed by Mau, could be derailed by some city staff members, who might not be receptive to what he termed "bold thinking."

“Bureaucrats have a tendency to support only that which advances their careers,” he said.

For more information, visit www.imaginesudbury.com or www.bigideasbigsolutions.ca.

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26 Comments

  • " I know what it's like to have 24 hour shopping...and I never used it. "

    Yeah, 'cause if you don't use it, that means nobody does.

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    People from outside the region do. People who consider moving their business/franchise here do. National chains that don't come to Sudbury because of this stupid bylaw do. Citizens who are tired of being gouged by Sudbury's Convenience Store Cadre do. People who work shifts do. People who would gladly take a graveyard shift over having no job at all do.

    "I ​f​ ​y​o​u​'​r​e​ ​s​u​c​h​ ​a​ ​f​o​r​w​a​r​d​ ​t​h​i​n​k​e​r​,​ ​w​h​y​ ​d​o​n​'​t​ ​y​o​u​ ​g​i​v​e​ ​s​o​m​e​ ​o​t​h​e​r​ ​e​x​a​m​p​l​e​s​ ​o​f​ ​w​h​a​t​ ​t​h​e​ ​c​i​t​y​ ​c​a​n​ ​d​o​ ​t​o​ ​m​a​k​e​ ​i​t​s​e​l​f​ ​m​o​r​e​ ​a​p​p​e​a​l​i​n​g​.​"

    There isn't enough room here, but for starters:

    - Elect a politician who's bold enough to try some new ideas instead of bowing to the "everything must stay the same forever" crowd (of which you're a member).

    - Put legacy projects on the back burner until infrastructure is updated (sewer and water, roads).

    - Allow vendors, etc to operate in Bell Park in oder to promote an Old Orchard Beach-style environment that might draw some tourists.

    - Allow a major development on Ramsey Lake. I'm thinking a resort or large hotel. Again, tourist dollars.

    - Remove any and all bylaws that interfere with the operation of businesses, including those that restrict store hours.

    - Recognize that existing bylaws/policies regarding businesses (which have been in place forever) are not working. You can't keep doing the same thing and expect to get different results.

    - Eliminate bus service to far-flung suburbs. Sorry, but if you move to Capreol and you don't have a car, you're not too bright. Ditto Onaping,

  • 'The point is not whether 24 hr shopping is stifling any progress in Sudbury. the point is its a matter of choice.
    If you don't find it 'archaic' at all maybe you dont own a business that would want to stay open 24 hrs. Whats the difference really when MAX Milk or other convenience store are open 24 hrs... If you owned a business wouldnt you like a choice? The government is taking away oiur right to choose...you better wake up. I dont think store being open 24hrs is the reason for the hustle & bustle of the big cities...Then you said that you see Sudbury as trying to emulate a city such a Toronto, well one would think thats what our our city council is trying to do with their personal dreams of mega centers and mega structures. When you're trying to think outside your box,,,,make sure their are no holes in it first.

  • I used to live in Southern Ontario. I know what it's like to have 24 hour shopping...and I never used it. Never had a need for it...and never will. And in my opinion (and it's my opinion) 24 hour shopping is un-neccessary. Personally, I like the by-law. I don't find it 'archaic' at all. Coming from someone who has lived down south, it's a nice break from all the hustle & bustle of the big cities...to have our city living in a more relaxed atmosphere.

    I dont' see it as 'stifling any progress in Sudbury'...I don't see 24 hour shopping as progress at all! I see it as Sudbury trying to emulate a city such a Toronto, and becoming a status-quo metropolitan centre. I think, as Sudburians, we can do better than that. (This is what I mean by thinking outside the box...so I think I clearly do have a clue what I'm talking about) As I said in my previous post, try thinking 'outside the box' of 24 hour shopping! If you're such a forward thinker, why don't you give some other examples of what the city can do to make itself more appealing. I'd be interested to see what your response will be!

  • "Hey Bulshoy...looks like I'm not the only one who thinks that 24 hour shopping is not the answer. Actually, I would consider YOU the one who 'lives inside the box'."

    Oh I'M inside the box, am I?

    So how's that archaic shopping bylaw working out for you? You know, the one that's stayed the same since I was born and that city council doesn't have the balls to change? Not so good, huh?

    It's made us the laughing stock of Ontario. People come here and can't believe the lack of services in a place that claims to be a city.

    This bylaw and others have been stifling any progress in Sudbury. Until these policies are scrapped, Sudbury will remain the butt of jokes.

    Maybe before you toss out a tired old cliche like "outside the box," you should find out what it means first. You clearly have no clue.

  • Even our so-called democratic canada has a few die hard communists...to be found in Sudbury. Bi-law for store closusures, bi-law prohibiting passing out phamplets critisizing local agaencies, etc etc. Its about control...and how much they can get away with and avoid acountability. For many small business being open for holidays would make a big difference on their bottom line. Boxing Day for families? This was said from Sudbury's council who is in the world spotlight for their ties with Children's Aid Society's who are keeping famlies apart. Im sure thats what we call propaganda.

  • Hey Bulshoy...looks like I'm not the only one who thinks that 24 hour shopping is not the answer. Actually, I would consider YOU the one who 'lives inside the box'. There are so many other creative, educational and cultural things that the city can do to make itself more pleasing to the citizens and to tourists then just having a few 24 hour shopping centres. Honestly, how does 24 hour shopping meet the 4 main criteria that Mau talked about? I can't see it increasing beauty, or designing the community with nature!!!

  • I dont ever recall a time where i needed a store open 24 hours a day, but what I don't like in Sudbury is that its not allowed. If a business is willing to pay to operate 24 hours a day, why shouldnt it be permitted? Why shouldn't a store be open on boxing day when its open in every other city in Canada? I remember reading the boxing day flyer for future shop last year, and it says open boxing day across Canada except Sudbury and I remember honestly feeling embarrased that the entire country read that. For me, its not a matter of do I need it, its a matter of why the hell shouldn't I be able to have it if I want it, when every other city has it? If you dont want to use it, don't... if enough people don't, it won't be profitable to do so, and they will close, but why not let them try for the people who do prefer it?

  • Let's watch this issue people.

    What is the value of having Walmart(s) open 24 hours/day if we lose businesses of real value to us like AJ Hardware......the last of the old time hardware stores where they can fix your broken windows or adapt your plumbing or whatever......

  • Whiteswan, those "lawbreakers" must be NDP supporters,right?

  • Who cares about 24 hour shopping? i've lived in a city that had a 24hr A&P...the place was empty every night after 2am.
    Besides, is Sudbury really so busy that people can't get to a store during normal business hours?
    Focus on the important things, like public transportation and diversifying our economy so when the miners are put out again, we'll have something else in our newspapers.
    Attracting another institute of higher learning is something i would like.
    Whiteswan, give it a rest.

  • 24 hour shopping is the least of what Sudbury needs to bring this beautiful city into the 21st century. New facilities for sports and entertainment, low-income housing to name only a few things should come before shopping. I mean really.

  • The push for 24 hour shopping is coming from the "big box" and "made in China" stores who have people restocking at night and huge empty parking lots.
    In summer, you can go elsewhere and see the motorhomes and camper trailers parked overnite in the parking lots of open Walmarts (for instance). The travelers restock their supplies and get a free nite of parking.

    We can't allow this to happen. It benefits no one in the City but the big box and made in China stores

  • Someone has to pay for 24 hr. shopping, and that someone is us. Those employees must be paid and so must the heat and lights.

  • All these proposed changes cost money except..Making community design open to the community itself: invite the public into the process something city council and other government agencies in sudbury have been blocking for years.
    Mayor says..Greater Sudbury has changed dramatically in the past decades, but more change is needed if Sudbury is to continue to grow, diversify, and keep youth here,...The only thing needing to change in this city is the balance of power and some accountability.

    Mau spoke about his four principles of urban revitalization:

    1.Compete with beauty: money and talent are attracted to beauty
    2.Make community design open to the community itself: invite the public into the process

    3.Design the “nature” of the city: imagine the city as a giant park
    4.Match actions to words: Do things that emphasize what we want to "say" about where we live

  • I agree. It's a question of whether not you want to live in a place that's worth caring about. If you don't then it's simple, just keep maintaining the status quo. I suspect that it's not too controversial to suggest that most people would rather choose to live their lives in an environment that does not depress them. Recalling what it's like to walk (yes walk, not drive) down Barrydowne in new sudbury with it's seemingly neverending sea of 4-lane highways and strip malls I have a hard time understanding why anyone would want to preserve the current landscape which is, frankly, not worth caring about.

  • Mau's innovative vision is not about increasing consumerism but enhancing Sudbury's culture and beauty to attract and retain people and jobs. Geez, sounds like there are some sheep out there that would rather be led by capitalist, corporate interests than by social and cultural ones. Truly progressive thinkers and doers have been critical of capitalist consumersim and its consequences for a long time. Who needs to get with the times?

  • Mau's innovative vision is not about increasing consumerism but enhancing Sudbury's culture and beauty to attract and retain people and jobs. Geez, sounds like there are some sheep out there that would rather be led by capitalist, corporate interests than by social and cultural ones. Truly progressive thinkers and doers have been critical of capitalist consumersim and its consequences for a long time. Who needs to get with the times?

  • "24 hour shopping is not the answer!!! I've lived in Sudbury for a long time, and I LOVE the fact that we don't have 24 hour grocery stores, drug stores, and any other retail centres that would opt for that."

    Not surprised. Most citizens here get pleasure out of living 60 years behind the rest of the world. That's the problem with Sudbury.

    "​ I​t​ ​g​i​v​e​s​ ​a​l​l​ ​t​h​o​s​e​ ​p​e​o​p​l​e​ ​w​h​o​ ​w​o​r​k​ ​i​n​ ​t​h​e​ ​r​e​t​a​i​l​ ​i​n​d​u​s​t​r​y​ ​a​n​ ​o​p​p​o​r​t​u​n​i​t​y​ ​t​o​ ​e​n​j​o​y​ ​t​h​e​ ​h​o​l​i​d​a​y​s​ ​a​s​ ​m​u​c​h​ ​a​s​ ​t​h​e​ ​r​e​s​t​ ​o​f​ ​u​s​ ​d​o​."

    If you don't like it, get out of retail. Go to school. There are people out there who WOULD like those jobs, and they'd gladly make extra money working stat holidays or graveyard shifts. But you'd rob those people of the opportunity, wouldn't you?

    Sounds like you're still thinking INSIDE the box, "informed." Using the same old ideas. What makes you think trying the same thing over and over is going to bring different results?

  • 24 hour shopping is not the answer!!! I've lived in Sudbury for a long time, and I LOVE the fact that we don't have 24 hour grocery stores, drug stores, and any other retail centres that would opt for that. I also LOVE the fact that our city doesn't allow Boxing Day shopping either! It gives all those people who work in the retail industry an opportunity to enjoy the holidays as much as the rest of us do.

    I think that the city should concentrate it's efforts in other areas. We should make our waterfronts more appealing to the tourist. We should have walking, biking and roller blading paths that go throughout the entire city! We should offer more cultural things for people to do, such as more than one theater centre, a place for larger, more global theater companies to come and put on broadway plays and musicals!! There are so many options that could be implemented to make Sudbury an hub of culture and entertainment. We need to start thinking outside the box and looking at what makes a great city great.

  • "Why does anyone think being about shop 24/7 is progress?"

    Why do you insist on forcing your anti-capitalist campaign on all of us? I don't give a darn about your idealistic crusade - I just want to be able to buy something at the grocery store after 9:00pm. Is that really too much to ask?

    "I've never heard of any city in Canada that offers 24 hour shopping"

    Let me help you:

    Barrie, North Bay, Toronto and surrounding municipalities, Ottawa, Hamilton, Montreal, Shawinigan, Trois-Rivieres, Calgary, Edmonton, Kelowna, Winnipeg, Medicine Hat, Regina, Saskatoon, Kingston...

    Should I continue?

    If Sudbury is ever going to move beyond being a small town pretending to be a city, we're going to have to get with the times. The 50s are gone, guys. You're not going to be able to bring them back.

    Nice to see Mucker still resides in REALITY.

  • I'm a bit confused. I've never heard of any city in Canada that offers 24 hour shopping. I'm an ex-Sudburian who lives in Montreal and we certainly do not have it. most stores close at 6 mon-wed and stay open until 9 thurs-fri. I think that's standard. The only way to shop 24 hours is online. I also agree that we should definitely look beyond increased consumption as a measure of progress. I think we can all look beyond attracting call centers and box stores to improve any city.

  • Why does anyone think being about shop 24/7 is progress? North America's obession with shopping and consuming stuff...especially "cheap" products made in China is at the heart of our economic crisis. The working man's debt is the plague of the 21st century.

  • Lets see a shift based economy with 24 shopping...go figure.
    No safe to shop at night...give it a break
    PLEASE SUDBURY for once look forward NOT back.

  • LOLLOLOL. Imagine seeing "Sudbury" and "embrace change" in the same sentence! I almost spit out my coffee.

    Whiteswan, cities that are WAY more dangerous than Sudbury offer 24hr shopping. In fact, almost every other city in Canada does. You're just making silly excuses now.

  • It would not be very safe to go shopping during the night.Some law breakers would certainly be outside the stores and would assault you and steal whatever they could and they would really hurt you.I sure hope that no store stay open for 24 hours a day.

  • Sudbury has needed to change for a LONG time, but the prevailing mentality won't allow for improvements. We are the only city in Ontario that doesn't have 24 hour shopping. Our downtown has been on life support for more than a decade. People are complaining about the renovations to the Bell Amphitheatre. Smaller communities have multi-pad rinks, and community sport centres, yet in Sudbury those ideas are taboo.

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