Local 6500 providing strike pay, benefits

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Jul 15, 2009- 8:57 AM

By: Heidi Ulrichsen - Sudbury Northern Life

Paycheques may have stopped flowing from Vale Inco to the 3,100 members of United Steelworkers Local 6500 on strike, but the workers will still get some financial compensation from a number of sources.

Local 6500 members went on strike on July 13 after their union failed to reach a new collective agreement with Vale Inco.

Members will receive $200 a week in strike pay starting at the end of the first week of August, said Local 6500 president John Fera.

The money for strike pay comes from the United Steelworkers of America's strike and defense fund. Members pay into the fund with their union dues.

The union is paying Vale Inco to have its payroll department automatically deposit the money into the strikers' accounts.

“We have to pay them (Vale Inco) to do that (distribute strike pay). The old Inco used to do it for free. The new Vale doesn't do anything for free,” said Fera.

“We don't really have a choice. For us to put together 12,000 cheques per month - we're just not equipped to do that. The cost to do it through the local banks was very, very high - a lot more than we are paying through Vale.”

About 2,200 of the union members were already receiving employment insurance when they went on strike because Vale Inco was in the midst of a production shutdown in its Sudbury operations.

These employees will continue to receive employment insurance until July 27, when the production shutdown was scheduled to end, said Fera.
 
Those who had been working during the shutdown will not receive employment insurance, he said.

The strikers have been cut off from their benefits for the duration of the strike. But if or when the strike enters week four, a fund set up by United Steelworkers District 6 will begin providing some insurance for union members. Each family will be eligible for coverage up to $1,000 per year (of the strike).

“That's better than what we had before (the benefits fund was set up). Before we had nothing,” he said.

Fera said some workers may decide to take other jobs during the strike to pay their bills and that's fine with him as long as they show up for their turn on the picket line.

The strikers are expected to put in 12-hour shifts on the picket line once every week and a half or two weeks.

“People need to maintain what they have. All we ask them to do is show up to do their strike duty and support the other members on the picket line. It's like a big family now. In order to win the fight, everyone has to stay together.”

Fera said he has no idea if his members have put away money to sustain themselves during the strike, saying “it's not my business.” But he said he hopes they have.

“One of the things we've told our guys to do over the years is to put that bonus money away and consider that your strike fund. In 2006, fortunately, we didn't need it because we didn't have a strike. But this one is going to be a tough fight, and hopefully people have put a nest egg away.”

The strike is going to have a bad impact on local businesses because the strikers won't be able to spend the same kind of money in the community, said Fera.

The union president would not speculate on how long he thinks the strike will last. The last Local 6500 strike, which took place in 2003, lasted three months.

There have been no talks between Vale Inco and the union since talks broke off last week, although Fera said he's willing to talk any time the company wants to.

“I don't like making any predictions (on how long the strike will last). I just know that however long it takes is how long it takes, and we'll be there one day longer,” he said.

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48 Comments

  • Us Canadian has to stick together. For years all the Unions faught for the workers'right, fairness, we all have our specific contract, some are better than others in others eyes. Nobody can compare to their own because the environment, the work are not the same, I'm a nurse can't compare with a miner. But I know for sure we cannot let a company from Brazil or any other country to try to bring us back 30 years. It's enough we let Our government decide how much money we should have in our retirement pension that we contribute all our working years. They adjust all the retirement pensions to have have a fix amount. When we were contributing in the pensions no adjustment was made than.
    I'm sure their retirement are more comfortable and lot less years of service . My point is we, as unions members "any unions" have to support each other because in any contracts of any jobs, we faught hard and many years to get where we are and nobody wants to loose it, all by signing under pressure. After it's gone it's gone, will never get it back.Canadians have to stick together no matter the job

  • The mining 'scabs' are coming in August, shortly after Vale receives it's injunction to allow ppl to pass over the picket lines.
    If the Union expects us to support their fight - they can't let us down! Those 'scabs' MUST NOT pass...

  • Well, Jewel...lets just say that you guys voted to go on strike...not even 2 weeks later...who is knocking on the City of Sudburys door for jobs....Hmmm....What is the word we are looking for??? SCABS? Oh yes, thats right, thats what you call them. They cant handle it so they look for work elsewhere. NOT EVEN 2WEEKS into it. At this time we have Inco workers coming in looking for work and yes they are getting hired at the city. Now, what we are talking about here is your workers coming in and taking work from unionized city employees. Im sure if the City of Sudbury went on strike, and us city employees walked in, crossed the picket line and started to work at Inco...you guys would be all over that....Im sure the news, mayor, everyone would know about it and how we are crossing the picket line. So...before you go off shooting your mouth to non inco workers...maybe you should talk to your brothers and sisters and ask them why they are crossing the line because this is what they voted for right? Ask your brothers and sisters why come down so hard on city workers but when the going gets tough (LOL less than 2 weeks) they get going to other unions and jobs.

  • Well, Jewel...lets just say that you guys voted to go on strike...not even 2 weeks later...who is knocking on the City of Sudburys door for jobs....Hmmm....What is the word we are looking for??? SCABS? Oh yes, thats right, thats what you call them. They cant handle it so they look for work elsewhere. NOT EVEN 2WEEKS into it. At this time we have Inco workers coming in looking for work and yes they are getting hired at the city. Now, what we are talking about here is your workers coming in and taking work from unionized city employees. Im sure if the City of Sudbury went on strike, and us city employees walked in, crossed the picket line and started to work at Inco...you guys would be all over that....Im sure the news, mayor, everyone would know about it and how we are crossing the picket line. So...before you go off shooting your mouth to non inco workers...maybe you should talk to your brothers and sisters and ask them why they are crossing the line because this is what they voted for right? Ask your brothers and sisters why come down so hard on city workers but when the going gets tough (LOL less than 2 weeks) they get going to other unions and jobs.

  • Well, Jewel...lets just say that you guys voted to go on strike...not even 2 weeks later...who is knocking on the City of Sudburys door for jobs....Hmmm....What is the word we are looking for??? SCABS? Oh yes, thats right, thats what you call them. They cant handle it so they look for work elsewhere. NOT EVEN 2WEEKS into it. At this time we have Inco workers coming in looking for work and yes they are getting hired at the city. Now, what we are talking about here is your workers coming in and taking work from unionized city employees. Im sure if the City of Sudbury went on strike, and us city employees walked in, crossed the picket line and started to work at Inco...you guys would be all over that....Im sure the news, mayor, everyone would know about it and how we are crossing the picket line. So...before you go off shooting your mouth to non inco workers...maybe you should talk to your brothers and sisters and ask them why they are crossing the line because this is what they voted for right? Ask your brothers and sisters why come down so hard on city workers but when the going gets tough (LOL less than 2 weeks) they get going to other unions and jobs.

  • ughhh, I am so sick of all you jealous people out there that keep going on about the INCO miners! Get over it already! They earn EVERY penny they work for, so shut up!! I cant believe that instead of backing up your fellow Sudburians, you are pretty much backing up a foreign company, all out of your jealousy over their paychecks, sheeesh, how pathetic! Vale Inco needs to realize that we are NOT a third world country and they CANNOT treat us like they treat their own (Brazillians)
    Man About Town, you make me sick, on just about every post you make, you just need to shut your mouth and get over yourself! Take your know-it-all attitude and Fack off!

  • THERE WILL BE A RALLY AT MCLELLAND ARENA IN COPPER CLIFF AT 1 PM FRIDAY TO PROTEST AGAINST INDUSTRY MINISTER CLEMENT AND AGAINST TAKEOVERS BY COMPANY'S THAT DONT HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF CANADA / SUDBURY IN MIND. FROM WHAT I HEAR JACK LAYTON IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE . FRIDAY JULY 24 2009 BE THERE.

  • Unionized employee's would of given just about anything to work at Vale. But once their in they eventually get brainwashed by the union to believe that they are getting F%%k by inco. I have worked in a few union enviroments and they basically just care about getting their union dues. John Fera should just appreciate the fact that vale is doing the strike payroll for them for a price alot less than the banks were going to charge. Instead he complains about having to pay for that service. Tell me what kind of service would his union provide for vale for free. We all know that answer, sqwat!

  • Well said ROG.
    The majority of the union guys have never worked anywhere else. Once they get in at Vale, they love it. Then the union starts to brainwash them into becoming antagonistic and having a sense of entitlement.
    Do the absolute least for the most money. Gripe and never show you actually are happy you have a good job with decent pay and superior benefits.

    Union relations have dropped back 30 years. And that squarely sits on the shoulders of 6500. They'll use the excuse that Vale is foreign owned, yet they drive Hondas, watch their Japanese TV's and watch American movies.
    What a joke.

  • Well said muff! AngryAaron, as for competing for jobs, tell the steelworkers to compete in their own union for jobs and not that of the communities, since they won't be taking these so call competing jobs for a career. And as for the communities support, read some of the columns and the newspaper and I think you'll see that people in this community are tired of your whining, just be glad you a job. And if inco is so bad a company to work for then quit.

  • hey angry ............ not too dispute your wonderful calculations and mathematical performance here but this 1 dollar per hour you talk of, is it not taxed ,uic`d and cpp `d ? If so then I`m bettin` your calculations are slightly off base!! As for strikers taking jobs elsewhere in the community shall we call that scab labour ? after all they are only going to be there a short while.........correct?

  • Rog, do you think Sudbury employers are going to be giving strikers preferencial treatment when it comes to hiring?

    If not, is it not fair to say that they aren't stealing jobs, they are competing for them?

    As for the 6% number.... 3,500 workers x $1/hour = $7,280,000/year. That's right... for every one dollar per hour (salary/wage or benefits) take away from the steelworkers contracts, there's 7 and a quarter million dollars that disappear from the local economy.

    If that 7 million dollars is spent in the community, it can support 242 jobs at $30, 000/year. So... next time you feel like talking about the "greedy" steelworkers think back to my math. Each $1 an hour less the steelworkers make is equal to about 242 jobs being lost.


    P.S. Rog, there's a huge difference between not having the community's support and not having YOUR support.

  • “One of the things we've told our guys to do over the years is to put that bonus money away and consider that your strike fund."

    Does this statement strike anyone else as odd, considering the fact that one of the issues at stake here is the BONUS?!

    Seeing as how the USW members insist on going off about how the big bonuses they got were an anomaly, it is likely that the strikers stand to lose more money while out on strike than they'll make with their next SEVERAL bonuses.

    So, basically, the bonus isn't really a bonus, it's just a strike fund so your leadership can act like a bunch of children at the bargaining table and you can comfortably take some time off at contract time?

  • second_account. IF a unionized steelworker does look for other work while they are on strike, then he or she's gotta do what they gotta do to make ends meet, but you don't need to mention it like John Fera did in his above statement. As for your statement that "why didn't those in need of work get the available jobs in the first place". I am talking about the present time when people out of work are looking for jobs.

  • Jonny Jon, when I said dangers involved I am talking about rock burts, machine failure, bad air, blasting incidents. All of these accidents happen under ground and most of them have caused death. Thats what I mean about dangers working underground. I have been working in mines since 1984 and I have worked and known personally 5 people who have been killed underground.

  • The typical sense of entitlement by the union is perfectly demonstrated by Ferra. He gripes that Vale is charging his local for distributing the strike pay-cheques. Yet Inco is still doing it for a discount. - This EXACT confrontational attitude and greed is why he and his members are in for a very long strike.
    Perhaps Inco should just say no. And let the union pay a bank a much higher rate for the payroll.
    Bottom line is there is no sympathy for 6500 for walking out on $90,000+ / year, soft jobs.
    Enjoy the summer boys. By the winter, many will be crossing the lines and begging for the latest deal.

  • Interesting argument second_account. Better yet, anybody that needs a job (or gets displaced by a striker) should cross the picket line at Vale and go to work there.
    Turnabout IS fair play.

  • Hey Rog...not to be rude, but when you say that the striking workers should be denied the privilege of working at any other places while on strike tell me one thing: if they're taking jobs away from people who need them more, why didnt those in need of work get the available jobs in the first place? I would find it honorable for someone to find alternate means of providing for his/her family if thats what needed to be done.

  • ...The problem with this specific issue is that VALE is unwilling to explain why the Ontario division is losing money, if it really is at all. My suspicion is that it is not and has not in many years. VALE INCO is however saving money while you guys&gals are on the picket line. Ruthless, but smart business nonetheless. If i had a crystal ball, it would most likely show the Company softening its stance somewhat to show it "cares" while in reality the accountants would have said "ok, we'll make more money if we mine the Sudbury Nickel basin rather than keep them on strike". Sorry for the long winded post folks...this entire situation is ugly and our community did not need it. Agree witht he union's position or not, ask yourself this: would you rather see friends,family and neighbours prosper and spend money here, or, have that money spent in another continent never to see any benefit at all. On a side note, why does the community keep quiet when teachers,police,firefighters etc who are paid for by our ever increasing taxes, fight for what they have won in past agreements? Their contributions to society are invaluable no doubt but so is stainless steel, like it or not. I'm with the Steelworkers on this one.

  • KangarooBob...forget it dude. You see, some people just can't stand the fact that they chose to listen to their HS guidance councillor's terrible advice and enroll in some kind of business admin/marketing/financials type of post secondary education, not realizing the glut of enrollment into those fields. Now that the realities have set in that they weren't good enough to get a job they studied for and are stuck in whatever they do, they feel that others should share in their plight. Its called jealousy. The bonus is indeed a bonus and i too would love one, but it ain't gonna happen. You guys fought for it and the employer accepted, fight to keep it the way it is. If not, ask for something else in return, like a 15% increase over the life of the next 3yr CA.
    I'm not a miner nor does my profession rely on mining. My mill rate may very well depend on the fate of INCO workers and their contract though. Having said that, i'm one of those who enjoys the finer things in life such as indoor plumbing and eating utensils. Forget all this Canada VS Brazil nonsense, this isn't the government of Brazil you guys are up against - its a conglomerate that is bent on controlling the Ni supply worldwide and the wages being paid to extract this resource. All 8 questions you ask are legitimate and would be answered truthfully if you were dealing with an honorable employer which it appears, looking from the outside, that you are not. Blaming the "economy" is fearmongering at its best, especially when it comes from a VERY profitable company regardless of the "economic realities" we all face. Some people are not feeling the pinch because they work in a STABLE industry. Extracting precious metals and ore is one of those even if it is cyclical. There is a SLOW recovery in the works as we speak, and we will all bounce back.Exhibit A: GoldmanSachs Group Inc.reporting a 2+B 1/4 profit in 09. The problem with this specific issue is that VALE is u

  • Sorry your right they where questions. You seem to be unhappy and given the current situation with Vale, I would be to. But I truly believe that you guys don't have that much support from the community given the current economic situation. And I don't say that in a rude way.

  • they weren't facts, they were questions. Now you said you read all 8, and the only thing you could come up with is, "Did you ever stop to think a bonus is just that a bonus?" You didn't answer a single one of the questions. If thats your best comeback, you may as well have said, "yeah, well....nice hair!"

  • say what you like. I did read this and will find it and display it on here for you. I read your little 8 facts and did you ever stop to think that a bonus is just that a bonuses. I think you were well compensated the last few yrs in bonuses. The free ride is over and you and your fellow employee's and you will have to pay into your benefit plan like most of us in this country.(Sorry I don't have an exact statistic on that for you).

  • Exactly what I thought, another made up statistic you read somewhere, sometime ago, that said something along those lines. Maybe is was your wife's co-workers second cousin who is a business analyst in McKerrow?

  • It was in an article in the Sudbury star about a week or two ago. It was written by a professor at the university of Toronto I think, who is a business analyst. Regardless or not of the exact percentage. The Sudbury community or Greater City of Sudbury, last time I checked (posted at city limits) population is about 140,000 people. So 3000 unemployed people don't make up all the spending in Sudbury. I will agree that it does trickle down to affect a larger number of business, etc.

  • ROG, you say thats a known statistic, could you tell me where I may find that statistic?

    You can use statistics to prove anything, 73% of all people know that

  • copied from another post, that nobody had the coconuts to answer....

    1. How is it possible to have an operation cash positive in ALL price cycles? Hear me out. I've only been here 13 years, and I've seen the market drop as low as $1.80 a lb. What are Vale's intentions if this were to happen again? Are the going to take all our wages away? All our benefits? Are we going to work for nothing and just wait for things to get better. Perhaps if this happens we can ask for free Hydro so Roger can have a positive balance sheet. It's nice talk, but aren't we reaching for the impossible here?

    2. If your goal is to achieve this, how does capping, or better yet restructuring the nickel bonus in a way that will cause its elimination within a few years help to this end? I mean if the division loses money, none of that pays out anyways, so I'm not sure how this has anything to do with tough times?

    3. Could you tell me how many times in the past 30 years nickel was at $7.00/lb for negotiations? How many times was it higher, and how many it was lower?

    4. Could you tell me how many times in the past 10 years Inco has posted a quarterly loss? I believe its one, but I'm not sure

    5. Could you clarify if there is any truth to the rumour that the Ontario division actually made 2 million last quarter, but reported a loss to bolster their argument heading into negotiations?

    6. Is it true that with your new pension plan structure, there is no option for people permanently disabled?

    7. It it true that in fact, although you are claiming there is no changes with seniority rights to job transfers and bidding, the reality is if you bid to an new plant/mine and it closes within the 3 years you are stuck there, you get laid off regardless of your seniority?

    8. Can you tell me what the amount rolled into the new pension plan would be if you chose to convert? Your accounting, payroll and benefits dept. did not have the answer on Friday, I'm hopi

  • copied from another post, that nobody had the coconuts to answer....

    1. How is it possible to have an operation cash positive in ALL price cycles? Hear me out. I've only been here 13 years, and I've seen the market drop as low as $1.80 a lb. What are Vale's intentions if this were to happen again? Are the going to take all our wages away? All our benefits? Are we going to work for nothing and just wait for things to get better. Perhaps if this happens we can ask for free Hydro so Roger can have a positive balance sheet. It's nice talk, but aren't we reaching for the impossible here?

    2. If your goal is to achieve this, how does capping, or better yet restructuring the nickel bonus in a way that will cause its elimination within a few years help to this end? I mean if the division loses money, none of that pays out anyways, so I'm not sure how this has anything to do with tough times?

    3. Could you tell me how many times in the past 30 years nickel was at $7.00/lb for negotiations? How many times was it higher, and how many it was lower?

    4. Could you tell me how many times in the past 10 years Inco has posted a quarterly loss? I believe its one, but I'm not sure

    5. Could you clarify if there is any truth to the rumour that the Ontario division actually made 2 million last quarter, but reported a loss to bolster their argument heading into negotiations?

    6. Is it true that with your new pension plan structure, there is no option for people permanently disabled?

    7. It it true that in fact, although you are claiming there is no changes with seniority rights to job transfers and bidding, the reality is if you bid to an new plant/mine and it closes within the 3 years you are stuck there, you get laid off regardless of your seniority?

    8. Can you tell me what the amount rolled into the new pension plan would be if you chose to convert? Your accounting, payroll and benefits dept. did not have the answer on Friday, I'm hopi

  • The way some people talk, you'd think that the steelworkers union are the only ones who spend money in this community.They make up 6% of what is spend in Sudbury and that is a known statisic. Yes, they do spend money but don't play the community card just because you think it will benefit your position in this labour dispute. The people here in Sudbury are dealing with alot of layoffs and concessions and the steelworkers union is of no exception.

  • patricklac1 i sure hope when you are saying "understand the dangers involved" that you are referring to unsafe conditions and huge risks. i have said this before and i say it again:
    I am in mine engineering, and I refuse to accept that mines in Sudbury are unsafe. I, along with all of my colleagues in the industry have a primary goal of ensuring the safe design of mines. If they weren't safe enough for me to want to go underground, then I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

  • How can anybody who does not work for Vale Inco who does not understand the dangers involve even dare to comment on the work stopage. This strike was caused just like every other stike was caused by the company. We as workers have always tried to negotiate a contract which would be fare to both us and the community that is why we miners in Sudbury are paid approximately 20% less in any other mine in Ontario. All of our contracts were trend setters and involved getting things like cost of living allowance, dental plan, prescription eye classes etc... In this contract we were more than willing to settle for the status quo. Unfortunatly Vale Inco does not see it that way, Even though they made billions last yr from Sudbury operations they insist that although they are taking our natural resources they do not want to compensate us. If this strike lasts too long we will not be asking for the status quo. We will be asking for more. We said not consessions and we mean it. So for all you people we think we are lazy and overpaid and underworked suck it up.

  • I'm 100% in support of the union. I'm not a steelworker, but I know when they get a good deal Sudbury benefits from it in the long run. It's simple economics, 3 500 people that have good pentsion will have money when they retire to spend in the Sudbury economy. In regards to the bonus, where do you think the men and women from Inco spend there money? Here in Sudbury!

    As an aspiring small business owner I sport the men & women of Steel.

    If you are jealous of union benefits might I suggest you join a union.

  • John Fera has no problem with his union memebers taking jobs away from other people in the community while their on strike, as long as they show up for picket duty. His union choose to go on strike so stay the hell away from any other jobs in this city. Whether it be at a grocery store or convience store etc, don't try taking a job away from someone who needs to work, they didn't choose to strike. People who aren't in local 6500 and try to go to work at Vale (ex: Local 2020) and cross the picket lines are called scabs, but it is alright in Fera's eyes for his memebers to go looking for jobs outside of his union and take jobs from other people in this community until they go back to their over payed jobs.

  • John Fera

  • Vale is acting as all corporations would. The company cooperated with the contract extension, but needed the strike to eliminate SUB payments. They will make money off the strike. Restrict supply and prices will increase. When their stockpile is depleted, they will start to negogiate. It is just good business for them. The bonus system of earnings-based compensation makes a lot of sense and should be a model for all companies.

  • "The union is paying Vale Inco to have its payroll department automatically deposit the money into the strikers' accounts."

    That's hilarious. The rocket scientists at the union hall can't even figure out how to make a payroll.
    Another example of how the dinosaurs survived for millions of years with walnut sized brains?

  • I'm the son of an employee not in favour of a strike and we will soon be in a situation where I am paying his mortgage so my parents can afford to pay other bills and the loan for their vehicle. If the union wasn't so blind to see that a recession requires cutbacks and the company could budge just a little, perhaps this situation could have been avoided. We'll come out fine, but I'm just concerned for those people who don't have anyone to help pay bills. What will they do for themselves and their children when they realize that $800 a month isn't exactly enough to pay for living expenses in this city?

  • Once again Morty, refer to my earlier post. This money comes from a fund we paid into since 2003 to provide a bit extra in times of strike......sheesh, get over yourselves will ya

  • It sure appears Fera got a firm grip on whats going on doesn't he.

  • Hard to sympathize with people earning $33.33 per hour while on strike...........I think they will find the community of Sudbury is not supporting them as they had anticipated.......

  • Huh? WTF was that?

  • While on the subject of affecting someone's fishing, consider this scenario:


    A steel worker is trying to enjoy his unexpected time off by taking a cruise. While on this cruise, the ship htis an iceberg and springs a leak. Everyone panics.

    The steel worker goes down to the hull of the ship to figure out what the problem is. The captain explains the situation and pleads for help.

    The steel worker explains his situation--that he's on strike and promissed his brothers he wouldn't work with any steel until the situation was resolved.

    The captain, frantic and tremendously concerned for his safety, exclaims that he's pay the steel worker $100, 000 if he could just fix the leak. Alas, the steel worker must refuse. Not only is he on strike, he's on vacation too.

    The captain then tries reasoning with the steelworker. He cries "But I can't possibly fix the union problem, please, save me!" The steel worker confirms the price of $100, 000 then, with a compassionate voice, says "wait here, I think I can help you out."

    The steel worker returns with the presidents of both the union and the company, points to the hole in the ship, and says "think you can work this out quickly so I can fix this sinking ship?" Naturally, the company quickly gives in to the union's demands and the steel worker was immediately ready to go back to work.

    The steel worker then said "Ohh, one more thing, it's important that I get an extra 3 weeks vacation this year, I'll explain why later, ok?" The union and company quickly agree.

    The steel worker walks up to the leak, bangs a hammer for a few seconds, then turns and says "problem solved, no more leak."

    On his way past the captain, the steel worker said "Send a couple bottles of champagne to my room so I can celebrate the end of the strike; take it off the $100, 000 you owe me."

  • Tony, once again you come on here and prove your ignorance. The money we get paid comes directly out of an account we made for ourselves at 6500 right after the last strike. A small percentage of each hour worked goes straight into this fund in order to up our benefits in case of a strike. This isn't getting paid, we've set that money aside ourselves. as far as the numbers game, its been said on here more times than I can count. Law prevents us from having more than a set number of employees on the line at any given time. if we all headed down, you'd be crying that we are being "intimidating" and accusing us of "mob mentality", so really we can't win either way. However, I do believe you are being deliberate in trying to spread false info, shame you can't come up with any real arguments.

  • Wow. There's some commitment eh? A twelve hour shift every two weeks?! So, about $400 a shift.

    Seems the USW members won't even work for their own UNION without gouging them.

    Solidarity forever...as long as it doesn't affect my fishing!

  • Wow. There's some commitment eh? A twelve hour shift every two weeks?! So, about $400 a shift.

    Seems the USW members won't even work for their own UNION without gouging them.

    Solidarity forever...as long as it doesn't affect my fishing!

  • Not everyone was able to put away Bonus money, some guys just started last year and didn't get bonus money. That's not Fera's problem though. I hope it ends soon!

  • John Fera is such a waste of space....he disgusts me. He's just enjoying getting payed while we strike. Let's stop being so greedy and get back to work. We're all just lucky to have jobs, this is a different game now! We're lucky to have a pension at all, so if new employees have to pay into theirs, so what! That's reality now. Most people have no pension at all or at the very least have to contribute somewhat to their own. As for the bonus, if you didn't see this coming you are delusional. When we were getting those large bonuses before, we knew it would have to end sometime. Vale is in business to make money and when they aren't making any here in Sudbury, guess what...we'll be out of jobs! Do the right thing for everyone and let's go back to work!!

  • I don't understand how people can listen to this guy. "“We have to pay them (Vale Inco) to do that (distribute strike pay). The old Inco used to do it for free. The new Vale doesn't do anything for free,” said Fera.

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