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Possible violations of city zoning bylaws at Vale Inco property was a hot topic at city council's March 10 meeting. File photo.

Possible violations of city zoning bylaws at Vale Inco property was a hot topic at city council's March 10 meeting. File photo.

Claude is an NDP'er because he bleeds orange. Looking forward to your greedy little leftist hand looking for money in the future Claude. You smell of OPSEU and their a fine union right ...

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Mar 12, 2010

By: Bill Bradley - Sudbury Northern Life

According to city councillors, the municipal level of government may be the only level of government that can impact the almost eight-month-long strike between members of the Steelworkers Local 6500 and Vale Inco.

That is because the city has jurisdiction over the housing provided to people, whether the housing is on individually-owned or business-owned property.

Ward 3 Coun. Claude Berthiaume, Ward 11 Coun. Janet Gasparini and other city councillors received cheers from about 20 Steelworkers Local 6500 members and supporters at city council March 10 when they stressed that Vale Inco must comply with city regulations, including fire and building codes as well as zoning bylaws.

Berthiaume raised the issue of Vale Inco's need to comply with city codes and bylaws for the housing of its workers during question period at the end of the city council meeting.

“Our fire chief has inspected the premises at Vale Inco for the possibility of violations of our bylaws,” Berthiaume said. “What steps are we taking to make sure these issues are being dealt with?”

Greater Sudbury chief administrative officer Doug Nadorozny said complaints about safety were received in late February about the housing conditions on Vale Inco property.

“We did respond immediately to those complaints on Feb. 26,” he said. Inspections of Vale Inco property were carried out Feb. 26 and 27 by Greater Sudbury Fire Services to assess the situation and later on March 2 by Building Services, he noted.

“Formal orders were issued concerning violations of the fire code, building regulations and zoning bylaws,” Nadorozny said.

“Vale Inco looked after the fire code violations immediately after inspection.” He said discussions concerning the building code and zoning bylaw infractions are ongoing.

Steve Ball, Vale Inco spokesperson, said that up to 200 people are being housed on the Vale Inco site near the smelter complex.

“We have been ramping up the number of people housed on-site since we started up the smelter in early January,” Ball said. “Because this is a 24 hour seven day a week operation we need 100 per cent access to our plants. We have at least a dozen trailers, and we house the rest in various buildings.”

Ball said orders were issued to Vale Inco by the city regarding the fire code after inspections, and the company dealt with them immediately. Vale Inco is working with the city to address other issues.

“We are looking into those issues with city staff," Ball said. "We are are happy how the process (with city officials) is going.”

In the past, workers have been housed on company property, Nadorozny explained. Precedent had been set during previous strikes, and the city should be taking that into consideration as it continues to work with Vale Inco regarding bylaw and zoning issues.

The city indicated it did not want to see any more trailers used for housing in the meantime. Nadorozny also said some workers were evicted from housing that was not deemed to be safe.

Treat them like everyone else: Craig

Gasparini said other levels of government were not doing anything to help end the strike.

“If we are the level of government to put some pressure to bear then we have to," she said. "When I see a plume coming out of the smokestack, I know our workers and retailers are not benefiting in this community.”

Berthiaume insisted the Vale Inco administration buildings were being used as a rooming house, and pointed out that allowing Vale Inco special treatment could set a precedent in the city.

“Why is this case different?" he asked. "What is the message being given out to the community?”

Fairness was an issue brought up by councillors Doug Craig, Frances Caldarelli, and Joe Cimino.

“(Vale Inco) buildings were not zoned for (housing),” Caldarelli said. “The average citizen, when they contravene the bylaw, they have to comply. Why is it easier for Vale?”

"Treat them like everyone else," Craig agreed.

“This is not a matter of taking sides, this is a matter of treating people equally," Ward 1 Coun. Joe Cimino added. "This should be black and white. Here's your order. Come to the planning committee, or remove the violation.”

Safety was also a concern, brought up by Ward 5 Coun. Ron Dupuis.

“We have to ensure people are not in unsafe living conditions,” he noted.

Ward 12 Coun. Joscelyn Landry-Altmann said in the future the city's bylaws should be air tight so a situation like the current one would not reoccur.

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29 Comments

  • Claude is an NDP'er because he bleeds orange. Looking forward to your greedy little leftist hand looking for money in the future Claude.
    You smell of OPSEU and their a fine union right Claude.

  • And how about a union forcing it's members to stand for hours in the elements? Only warmed by a fire barrel that they must chop their own wood or freeze?
    Sleep in cramped trailers with no food or washroom facilities. Paying their members $200 a week to feed and shelter their families.
    Bullying and intmidating anyone that wants to exercise their basic human and constitutional right to return to work?
    Yeah, a few trailers inside a plant with full ammenities is a crime against humanity there weathy.

  • Housing workers in makeshift living quarters is essentially creating third world sweat shop labor conditions. It is labor rights violations in this country. The Vale workers being housed don't have a choice to live in or out during the strike. They are forced to stay in and sleep there for so many days in and then out so many days. THis is forcing them to live in cramped inadequate, unsafe, uncomfortable, unhygienic conditions. This is a major social and labor issue to deal with and it is a human rights issue. The housing by-laws and labor laws are in place to protect people from exploitation and physical as well as emotional\psychological harm. The council is not supporting 6500 union or NDP, they are supporting human rights. They are not fighting the housing violations in a move to support Union over Vale interests, they are not takin sides in the dispute, they are simply doing what they should be doing and protecting human beings from harm. Vale must comply with simple decent housing rules like any other citizen corporate or private.

  • Speul chek

  • None of this mess would have happend if the ( then in power) federal government would have stoped vale from buying inco in the first place, the city council at the time didn't fight very hard either, the provincial party in power turned there backs on sudbury, now this city is torn apart with all the petty fighting. People canada is being sold off one town at a time and no one is seing this happening. And for the so called replacement employes well if they want to live in old trailers on a ugly site without any outside contact well thats there problem.

  • Maybe a bylaw officer should browse Kijiji looking at all the ads for "student housing". Several ads stating great for students
    One's a 6 brdm house going for $525 PER ROOM!
    A Couple of examples;
    Ad ID 184778510
    Ad ID 187182138

  • Slumlords are not welcomed in our city. Plain and simple.

  • I am wondering if the USWhas a burning permit for all the barrels. I can't burn why should they. Follow the rules for everyone right J-Rod and your leftist cohorts.

  • If these people are happy with the conditions that they are living in while they are on Vale property then the city should leave it alone. It's up to the individual worker to voice his/her opinion and the unsafe living conditions NOT THE CITY. The City should start cleaning up their own mess they have around the community. Our children are living in unsafe geared-to-income homes, apartments. Does the City care..."I don't think so". Mold in the apartments, unsafe electrical conditions...I could go on....but who am I to give my opinion, I'm just a one individual and a part of the community.

  • Pro NDP?...Where do you come from Harry? This crater's been Liberal for as long as I can remember...just because you have a few councillors trying to get a few votes makes them NDP? Our mayor and council goes what ever way the wind blows if you havent noticed.

  • Just because Corporations operating in Canada sponsor television shows or advertise their name in the media should not entitle them to a "free ticket" to take advantage of Canadian taxpayers to foot their bills.
    Should Sudbury taxpayers complain to the management of "The Big Smoker" for their contribution towards rusting out the water tower with their acid rain. Let the polluter cover the costs to sandblast and paint it. Our roads are beat to sh!t and so are our vehicles because management at "The Big Smoker" have hired a contractor with huge trucks to impede our daily traffic, pollute the air with soot and noise, and create potholes, all of which become a cost and burden to the taxpayers.
    Why don't they move ore using the rail system like they used to.
    Holy Smoke P.M.S. please don't preach about who gets the breaks.
    My car is rusting out from acid rain. Does the company cover that cost 100% or did they pawn that one off too?
    How many Northerners are subjected to the same crap day in and day out? 150,000+?
    Who's really getting the breaks?

  • I have never in my life seen a city council so biased against a company and so biased towards unions.

    This city and its pro union NDP councillors disgust me.

    They should be standing up for everyone, not just organized labor.

  • I fully expect the required occupancy permit for the new steel hall on Brady St was obtained; and USW have applied for the proper permit to close Brady St on the 22nd for their parade.
    Council can forget about corporate sponsors for their legacy projects.

  • Question to council: If you believe everyone should be treated equally then why does Sudbury have 5200 subsidized homes?

  • Are they going to enforce the open burning on the picket lines where the fires are nearer to structures than the bylaw allows? Are they going to enforce open burning in the Caruso Club parking lot or is this just a big show because it's an election year? You have to wonder about the mental capacity of some of these councillors.

  • Berthiaume for Mayor !

  • With this petty move by the city, Vale should remember it come next time counsel asks for a huge corporate donation for a public building, event, or charity.
    Wan't to support the union and take sides instead of remaining neutral? Vale is a legal operating company that pays huge property taxes and injects billions into our local economy.
    Cenefest? United Way? Summerfest?.....Sorry Mr.Berthiaume, Dupuis, Cimino, Ms.Landry-Altmann, Caldarelli ,Gasparini. We don't have the money right now. We're occupied with conducting some inspections. Don't call us. We'll call you.

    Voters, remember these names. They are the ones that are supporting a greedy union. Playing political games to get some cheap votes for this fall. 3,000 strikers versus the other 150,000 citizens that need proper representation.
    Eltongate, now Incogate.

  • O.K. So, Vale can be opperating a housing development on their land for scab labor. Why? Because of the lengthy strike, their opperations must move forward. Regardless of city by-laws. Well then, anybody out there on the verge of losing there homes because of this fight there is a solution. We have a housing shortage in this city. If you have a basement or a half basement I can convert that area into rental accomodations. You can avoid foreclosure. There will be an increase in affordable housing and as for building codes and bylaws? It's all O.K. for Vale, Then Its all O.K. for the workers. Why Not!

  • take all those "supporting non-working families" signs down. i'm sure that is breaking some by-law. I guess they could be used to put the "FORECLOSURE" stickers on.

  • waah waahh scupperdrain...it was only one day u big baby..

  • Vale shouldn't have any problem finding "dirt" on our municipal government. I hope vale responds to the city's harrassment and takes out full page adds in newspapers and billboards. The city should have be so concerned about us all a long time ago and over issues that were present looong before the strike! Oh ya....complying with the housing regulations is gonna really affect their bottom line...get real! If these workers felt the accomadations were so terribnle they could have compained themselves to the proper authority....more wasted time by council!

  • P.M., I agree: the knife does cut both ways.

    Which is why I'm wondering where all the by-law officers and the Fire Marshall were today when the 6500 members clogged up the streets in the West End, parking in No Parking zones and in front of fire hydrants.

    I live in the area, and drove home for lunch - traffic was down to one lane on most of the side streets surrounding the Caruso.

    Why no outcry in Council about obvious parking violations as well as safety hazards?

  • Ward 3 Coun. Claude Berthiaume, I WILL REMEMBER YOU NEXT MUNICIPAL ELECTION,,YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT EVERYONE AS EQUALLY AS POSSIBLE, it looks like you are only interested in representing 6500 members.You sound like a NDP person,are you?

  • So is all city owned property up to code.............
    Funny where was the big stink when INCO was doing the EXACT SAME THING during their strikes?

  • Philip Morris, I sure hope you sent your comments in to the city. Looks like they might need a good dose of reality.

  • "Treat them like everyone else" - Craig

    Agreed.
    Level the same inspections and charge for infractions equally. That includes 6500. Illegal parking and towing of their vehicles at picket sites. Inspection and removal of illegal picket shacks. Charges under the fire code for illegal bonfires. Electrical and occupancy inspections for the picket shacks. Fines and arrests for interfering with traffic during protests or picket line slowing of cars.
    Immediate bylaw compliance with removing picket signs from roadsides.
    City counsel had better be very careful what they do here. Because the knife cuts both ways.

  • what about the bylaw officer dishing out tickets to all the people parking illegally downtown just across the street every single hockey game and concert or police officers parking in handicap parking?

  • and the steel workers should be prevented from blocking traffic as it's against the law, should have another police force investigate the random acts of vandalism & violence and charge everyone who obstructed by preventing police from laying charges against those responsible. don't even get me started on the intimidation tactics and the website. Pot factory calling the kettle black.. lol

  • Can I put up 200 people in my garage?
    If they can why can't I?