Steelworkers stage protests as talks continue

As exploratory talks continue between Steelworkers Local 6500 and Vale Inco negotiators, union members are taking part in protest action. Supplied photo.

As exploratory talks continue between Steelworkers Local 6500 and Vale Inco negotiators, union members are taking part in protest action. Supplied photo.

Mar 06, 2010- 1:36 PM

By: Heidi Ulrichsen - Sudbury Northern Life Staff

UPDATED March 6 at 2:34 p.m.:

As exploratory talks continue between Steelworkers Local 6500 and Vale Inco negotiators, union members are taking part in protest action.

The two sides have been meeting with the help of a provincial mediator in Toronto since last weekend to see if there was enough common ground to return to the bargaining table. They have imposed a media blackout on the talks.

Local 6500 has been on strike against Vale Inco since July 13.

When contacted by Northern Life, Vale Inco spokesperson Steve Ball said in an e-mail the “blackout is still in effect. There has been no news anything has changed so I guess no news is good news. That's all I can say.”

Local 6500 president John Fera did not answer his cell phone.

Meanwhile, a group of about 100 union members have gathered in Toronto to protest at the Toronto Convention Centre this afternoon (March 6). A group of Steelworkers from the Toronto area was also due to protest with them.

Gary Bass, one of the Steelworkers at the event, spoke to Northern Life by cell phone.

He said they are protesting at the convention centre because Vale Inco is the co-sponsor and a presenter at a conference taking place there.

Bass said the conference is about how mining companies can build positive relationships with community stakeholders, and how to resolve conflicts.

“And yet, up in Copper Cliff, they're bringing in replacement workers, and the strike has been ongoing since July 13 of last year.”

Bass said he's aware that exploratory talks are currently taking place between his union and Vale Inco in Toronto.

“That's why, originally, we weren't sure we were going to be doing this. I don't know how the talks are going. We're here, exercising our democratic right to protest peacefully, and just to let them know 'We're here, we're concerned, we're community stakeholders, just like anybody else, and we feel what is going on is wrong.”

Local 6500 members also protested outside the FedNor office in downtown Sudbury March 5, according to media reports. Industry Minister Tony Clement was in the office at the time.
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38 Comments

  • DonS. Global Unity is investing in "Bridging the Gap". Each and every event is sponsored by community minded citizens
    from around the world who support the efforts of getting a fair and just deal here in Canada.
    There are no free vacations to be had here. The people who attended the rally were "driven" by the actions of corporate greed. They were "fueled" by their deep desire to get a fair deal now. They felt COMFORT INN the hospitality that was offered by their brothers and sisters in the Toronto area.
    Perhaps Investors might soon be asking the management people responsible for this mess to take a special vacation.

  • Who in charge of the union coffers? who is paying for all these protests? There is money behind this one and every other protest you see people are paid to participate ...how pitiful that they have to provide free vacations to workers to have them protest. The well will run dry soon .

  • News Flash for Viking. Company is not satisfied with
    just making Canadians bend over backwards, they now
    want them to bend forward too!
    Yes, trouble on the streets began when what new company
    decided to hire out of town mudslingers to patrol the city streets and stalk the citizens of the north. Wouldn't it be interesting to find out that this "security firm" was behind a lot of these occurrences in order to falsly implicate innocent people in the community. I, for one don't trust them.

  • What does one say to a pickle? Nothing. A pickle doesn't have ears or a brain. A pickles job is to get on the sandwich and be quiet. Have you got that dill pickle?

  • Geez bigriver
    What colour's the sky in your world?

    Pittsburgh aren't going to spend another penny on this sinkhole of a strike. They see the writing on the wall and will only be going through the motions now.

    Thursday/Friday will decide if Local 6500 will be returning to work or facing decertification in July.....or maybe like in Red Lake, they'll remain on the line and the USW will slink out of town in a couple years.

  • Vale refuses to bargain yet again. So the past two weeks were just a shoddy attempt by Vale to be able to refute the union's case at the Labour Board hearing. I say now it's time for the union to bring out the big guns. First, file a writ of mandamus to force Tony Clement to do his job. Second, file a lawsuit against Vale for vexatious litigation and another lawsuit(class action) for violating all of our civil rights. Also, we should file a suit in the Hague against the Government of Canada for tortious interference in allowing Vale to buy Inco which thus lead to the previous wrongdoings against us. Canada is a nation of laws and is Vale doesn't want to follow them, so be it.

  • noofie, 40% of the 3000 support the motion(1200), then a 60% majority (1800) is needed. Again, don't quote me, just going according to what was printed a few weeks back. All speculation either way, it rarely happens anymore and I'm assuming the boys will weigh their options and ratify this CA. The non-endorsement from the exec is to save face in my opinion.

    viking, that's the most outrageous comment I've seen you post yet. martial law? murders related to the strike? commerce at a standstill?...yikes...

    good comeback harry. better get going now, the rest of us without lives would be just heartbroken should you be late for work.

  • Hey viking, I think you need to get back on your medication. :) You have lost touch with reality.

  • The sight of these terrorists carrying the Canadian flag is disgusting!!!They do not represent Canada. In Sudbury citizens are afraid to leave their homes for fear of being attacked by these union scumbags!!!Homes are being targeted because they fail to display the terrorist signs. My neighbours go out in pairs in fear of being attacked and murdered like others in this city. It is time for martial law to be declared and the citizens made to feel safe and commerce to be restored. We can do very well without these greedy terrorist scum. The do not represent Sudbury or Canada.

  • stand strong Vale
    you're fighting the good fight
    can you say decertification :)

  • Vale Inco, a subsidiary of Brazilian miner Vale SA ( VALE | Quote | Chart | News | PowerRating, VALE5.BR), and the United Steelworkers union Sunday broke off exploratory talks that had aimed to restart labor negotiations to end an eight-month strike at Vale's Canadian nickel operations, a union spokesman said Sunday.

    The two sides remained too far apart on important issues, though some progress was made, said USW spokesman Wayne Fraser.

    "We made some progress but not near enough," Fraser said. "the strike will continue."

  • Vale serves union leadership with court case papers on the day new negotiations start. Sounds like Vale had good intentions to reach an agreement. I guess it's a new, old world order where you kick the people that you're trying to negotiate with, in the teeth before you start dealing. Kinda brings to mind The Godfather, "We'll make 'em an offer they can't refuse".

  • @second_account
    Are you suggesting that if Vale Inco had (40% x 3000 =)1200 Local 6500 members working for them on July 14 and there was a decertification vote, and (60% x 1200 =)720 voted to decertify, the process would begin?
    If you're right, that's a scary prospect facing (3000 - 1200 =)1800 union members.

  • thanx second account
    I truly value your opinion
    now i have to start getting ready for work
    I have to leave at least two hours early these days, to get through the picket lines
    stupid picketers, making me miss the Simpsons
    Free Country, Free Country, blah blah blah
    get with the program
    and if you ever saw my grandma naked you wouldn't talk like that :)
    get a life

  • cont...I'm not saying 6500 should look for alternative representation, but i assume a slight alteration to their philosophy would be welcomed by a large number of the members.

    harryRsole you already posted that topless grandmother quip on the SS. It wasn't funny then and it still isn't funny now. How about getting an adult's user-id?.

  • "i do not know why the mentality and IQ of some of the steelworkers are so poor" , "...will never get ​b​a​c​k​ ​t​h​i​s​ ​l​u​x​u​r​i​o​u​s​ ​j​o​b​s​ ​a​n​y​m​o​r​e" said sean10.
    Re-read your posts and ask yourself if you should be criticizing the IQs of others. Use a dictionary and/or a tutor's help if you must.

    I'd have to think the reason some of the guys that went down to picket the conference, not the talks, was to show the company that they remain unhappy with them, regardless of the fact that they are currently in mediation. For those of you who actually think protests prevent the negotiation of collective agreements, you obviously have zero knowledge about the process. Remember the whole bad faith bargaining thingy? Do ya think the OLRB wouldn't notice the company taking their toys and going home because a group of Canadians exercised their right to assemble? Duhhh...

    I do agree though that the union exec should be making better efforts to quiet down the membership a bit to show some respect for the bargaining process & the company, but for those who tend to forget and take things like this for granted, this is a free country and citizens are free to protest peacefully if they want. Who`s to say the whole group in the picture are from local 6500? USW flags are pretty easy to come by. I think it would interesting to know how many are green activists that oppose and picket anything related to mining and the extraction of resources.

    Thats one noofie, but there are a few other clauses that allow for de-certification. History has shown that these moves are very hard to achieve. Don't quote me, but i believe it would take a 60% majority to pass it and only after at least 40% agreed to put it to a vote in the first place. The 'other' paper had a short blurb on it a while back. The gist was that it must come from the members, the company having no say in the matter.
    I'm not saying 6500 should look f

  • Bigriver, you and people like you are the problem with 6500
    step into the year 2000
    Neanderthal thinking gets you no where
    Vale will prevail
    Steve Ball for Mayor of Sudbury

  • I don't see the Grim Reaper or Big Bird in the picture.

  • It's my understanding of labour law that Local 6500 can only be decertified after a vote by the members after 1 year of a strike.

    I think that Mine Mill can still "raid" Vale Inco though.

    The strike is long from over yet. There is nothing in the nickel/copper markets to encourage Vale Inco to settle unless there are significant concessions and agreement by the union on the dismissal of any and all Local 6500 members identified as undesirable employees due to their picket line and other strike related activities.

    How these idiots in the Toronto demonstration thought they could help the cause is beyond reason.

  • i do not know why the mentality and IQ of some of the steelworkers are so poor.....they are just JOKERS!!! entertaining the public....

  • this strike demonstratin by some stupid steelworkers (i mean very very stupid ones) will push the public to side with VALE.....

    keep doing, time to decertify this union soon!!!!

    even if they get back, some thugs and trouble makers will never get back this luxurious jobs anymore...

  • Shut up telling me telling you to shut up. It's obvious you can't leave well enough alone. Both sides agreed to a blackout, so let's have it.

  • bigriver,
    Vale did not mark and X on the ballot for you, you did it yourself. quit blaming your employer for your own dumb actions..you made your bed now lie in it and grow up!!!
    I teach my children to take responsibility for their own actions, you should start taking responsibility for yourself rather than blaming the big bad evil vale.

  • Steve Ball for Mayor? Of where? He can't handle the hall monitor job without Vale being cited for violations. Hey, Antartcica doesn't have a mayor!

  • You finally get Vale to the tables
    then show up picketing
    say that out loud 3 times
    how stupid does that sound
    these 50 or so knobs better not hope this doesn't affect talks
    or they will be the ones getting their tires slashed
    Stand Strong Vale
    Steve Ball for Mayor

  • Refusing to bargain for 8 months and bankrupting local contractors/ suppliers: sounds like building postive relationships with stakeholders to me. NOT!

  • “He said they are protesting at the convention centre because Vale Inco is the co-sponsor and a presenter at a conference taking place there.
    Bass said the conference is about how mining companies can build positive relationships with community stakeholders, and how to resolve conflicts.”

    Exactly. And if you think for one minute any of the miners at the PDAC convention would hire any of those goons forget it. You’d better hope you get some (ANY) kind of a settlement and soon because no one else in their right mind would want a pack of these lazy trouble makers even close to their operation.

  • I heard they were protesting Vale getting some kind of Union Buster of The Year Award from the Canadian Establishment. And no they weren't protesting the talks. Nice try Vale bloggers.

  • I heard they were taking buses to go down....who exactly pays for these buses?...i know from having school aged children who go on school trips that these buses don't come cheap..just wondering

  • Democratic right to picket?
    my grand-mother also has the right to go topless, but she doesn't
    it's called common sense
    truly pathetic
    who ever is calling the shots on this. should be fired

  • LOL, too funny. (posters that is)

  • I hope they do cause the talking to stop maybe the rest of the USW will take out their fustrations on the idiots that went to Toronto

  • If Fera/Fraser/Gerard had any sense at all, they would have issued a joint declaration stating that the action of these guys was not in any way approved by the USW of A and have it published in every medium which might pick up the story on the demonstration.
    Instead, they'll allow these goons to embarrass Vale Inco again.
    I'm certain Vale has a list of people who will not have jobs to return to. Perhaps these guys have just gotten their names added.

  • Complete and utter idiots is what these protesters are, sure go ahead make some more noise and see how much further you can screw it up for your "Brothers"!!!!

  • Exactly northside!! These radicals need to know when to shut up and keep quiet. They have no clue how to leave well enough alone and to let their elected members do their job (finally) It is really too bad that these 100 or so members care nothing about their "brothers and sisters"
    They are self centered individuals who are milking their 15 minutes of "fame"

  • Exactly northside!! These radicals need to know when to shut up and keep quiet. They have no clue how to leave well enough alone and to let their elected members do their job (finally) It is really too bad that these 100 or so members care nothing about their "brothers and sisters"
    They are self centered individuals who are milking their 15 minutes of "fame"

  • This protest is just plain stupid, started up by radicals in strikeforce site, they are barganing now, let them talk in peace. They don't need a few radicals to derail talks now that talks are progressing. I just can't understand the radical element in this union. Both Fera and Fraser dosen't want them there to disrupt things. It makes one wonder if the 50 or so radicals even want this strike to end,,unbelievable....

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