Vale Inco files lawsuit over websites

Vale Inco filed a $1 million lawsuit against the United Steelworkers Local 6500 because of content on the uswlocal6500.ca website, as well as a Facebook site called Strikeforce 6500, which is run by the union’s supporters.

Vale Inco filed a $1 million lawsuit against the United Steelworkers Local 6500 because of content on the uswlocal6500.ca website, as well as a Facebook site called Strikeforce 6500, which is run by the union’s supporters.

Mar 01, 2010- 4:26 PM

By: Sudbury Northern Life Staff

On Feb. 25, just before the exploratory talks began with the United Steelworkers Local 6500, Vale Inco filed a $1 million lawsuit against the Steelworkers because of content on two websites related to the strike.

The lawsuit cites 25 people who are either Local 6500 leaders or have been running the union’s official website, www.uswlocal6500.ca, or a Facebook site called Strikeforce 6500, which is run by the union’s supporters.

USW Local 6500 president John Fera said he would not comment about the lawsuit.

Vale Inco spokesperson Steve Ball said the websites “promote some of the intimidation, violence and vandalism that we’ve seen in the community.”

One section of www.uswlocal6500.ca includes pictures of “scabs,” as well as AFI International employees (the contractor hired by Vale Inco to provide picket line security), Vale Inco staff and contractors crossing the picket line.

Ball said Vale Inco is concerned that these pictures, as well as some of the comments on the websites, have led to violence and intimidation.

A statement on www.uswlocal6500.ca warns against posting “scabs’” addresses, phone numbers or threats. It also states that www.uswlocal6500.ca and www.fairdealnow.ca are “the only two electronic forms of communication authorized by Local 6500.”

While the Strikeforce 6500 Facebook page is not an official Local 6500 website, Ball said several members of the union are involved in running the website. “It doesn’t matter. It’s still a site that’s being used to intimidate and threaten people.”

When asked about the timing of the lawsuit, filed just two days before the beginning of exploratory talks, Ball said they are “separate issues.”

“Obviously, it’s taken awhile for us to build a case. We feel we have a case now.”

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46 Comments

  • I for one have kept pretty quiet about this whole strike, but now, these poor excuses for men are vandalizing and using violence like a bunch of high school punks to try and get what they want! WAKE UP BOYS! This is not the same Inco you believe it to be. It will NEVER be the way it was before. And for you to single out "scabs" people who are going to do your jobs because you are either to scared of being bullied and scrutinized yourself or too proud from being spoiled before, is pathetic! You better put a leash on your boys because they are getting way out of control and vandalizing people's homes, WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH VALE INCO. No one in this town cares about you anymore. As for the strikers who wanted to go back to work, and don't want any harm to come to their family as you have seen from this group, it's understandable. You are the ones this community will support, not the meat heads who think violence and scare tactics are going to get them what they want.

  • give me a break Raise Miner......82%???
    Where did you pull that number from?

    I know EI has an ongoing investigation into possible fraudulent qualification and claims but are waiting for the correct time to move on their actions.
    They're not going to kick you while you're down.

  • Keep digging wifey.

  • The only 'laughter','PMS',is the people who read your nonsense on a DAILY basis,some times TEN times a day,under a whole slew of different monikers.

    A little obssessive compulsive are we????????

  • Phil, I guess no one told you that 82% of the members get strike pay and EI for a total of $2400/ month and have wives that work full time, not to mention all the guys who work on the side, they are still make a lot more money than the contractors. One Day Longer!!!!

  • Not once did I post that d​e​c​e​r​t​i​f​i​c​a​t​i​o​n​ was going to happen on the 13th of January 2010.
    Others may have inferred that it was a certainty. I clearly posted that after 6 months, that was an option that would be openly pushed. I admit to knowing the anniversary opens a viable, honorable alternative.

    Guess what? Its happening. Disillusioned union members have been considering pulling the plug on the Stealworkers. The same open discussions that were once taboo, like crossing the lines are going on.
    Fear mongering? No. Accurately predicting what's been going on for the last 8 months. YES.
    The union stated nobody would cross the lines. They would never lose injunctions. The plants would never start. The strike would be over by the fall. Suburians automatically would support them.
    All wrong. We all know which side is all TALK. Insults, hissy fits can't change the facts your brainwashed hubby chooses to avoid. Stand by your man, no matter the cost, right? The laughter continues.

  • Look,'PMS'......DONT bs me or the other regular readers on this forum.

    In december of 2009,YOU and your fellow 'mining experts'predicted that jan 13 was the 6 month anniversary of the strike.It was going to be the day of decertification of the union,hordes of steelworkers would cross the line and go back to work,and it would be the beginning of the end of the union.

    Of course,you CONVENIENTLY forget that now,and sluff it off and pretend that ALL you said was........'the smelter started'

    Sure,sure 'PMS'.....your not even MAN enough to admit you were fear mongering.Like i said before......your ALL TALK

  • It still doesn't matter,pm.....FACT....Sudbury’s operation loses HUGE money when it operates at partial production....

  • January 13th?
    Oh, that was the day that Vale promised to start the smelter. The union promised it was frozen and nobody would cross the lines.
    Guess we know who was accurate in their forecasts then.
    Keep shoveling the propaganda and deflecting from the facts. Keep reminding us all how the union hasn't had a payday for nearly 8 months. Your nervous laughter is being drowned out by the sounds of men working.

  • Transparency is good for all. When you scab other people's jobs your photo should be shown because that replacement worker although legal is affecting the unionized workers that are on strike in a very negative way. The replacement worker becomes a big part of the problem by prolonging the strike and the misery. The freedom of the press to report such activities is one of our basic rights of speech in this country. All the players in this strike are a part of the facts/evidence and should be displayed for all to see and measure the right or wrong of these present conditions. The scabs are hurting the unionized workers therefore they are part of the problem and should be are part of the public face that this strike has brought to our community. If the scabs don't want to be seen, they should wear veils over their faces to conceal themselves from the public view. Hey... a new name for the company and it's scab labour... VEILS INCO (the concealed workers and their secretive company officials).

  • I hope Vale doesn't sue me for posting on this blog. If their propaganda is to be believed, a union has no right to discourage defections by naming scabs but it is an integral piece in establishing its right to strike.

  • Omg,im laughing my a.. off,lol.What 'decertification',"PMS"?

    It makes me think of 2 months ago..........remember,you were shouting doom and gloom about what was going to happen on Jan 13th.

    And do you remember what happened that day?.........ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

    You see,PMS...........your just ALL BIG TALK..........you ALWAYS have been........you ALWAYS will be

  • Correction wifey,
    Where your husband USED TO work.
    He gave up his job for an ego driven strike, remember? Now others are doing his work.
    Bottom line is that 6500 thought they could hide their illegal intimidation and threats behind a web site.
    WRONG!
    They are in full panic mode and Vale again takes the proper, high road in this dispute. It is little wonder why Sudburians have turned their backs on the once respected union local.
    Toss all the hollow statements you got. Like a child in the schoolyard, they are meaningless. An exercise in trying to make yourself feel good. When the lawsuit runs its course, and the union can't wiggle out of this one, is desertification far off?

  • Cellardoor, If your picture were to appear on the website, would the image show you wearing a cowboyhat, a red shirt and sporting a black moustache? This thought DonS. on me that the photo might have you with a sudbury gal under one arm and a grumpy ole pee wee under the other.

  • Does this mean.......if someone reports where my husband works,or where i used to work........i can sue them for a million dollars?

    Can Vale get any more pathetic? They have turned this whole town upside down,and purchasing Inco had turned into a complete disaster for the people of Sudbury.

  • GOOD GOD! GO BACK TO HIGHSCHOOL IF YOU WANT THIS DRAMA! After taking a look at the 6500 website holy SHIT! I agree 100% with Vale to set up that lawsuit...i guarantee none of those people allowed their photo's to be taken, especially to be used like that. THAT IS ILLEGAL YOU 6500 MORONS! YOU GUYS, MESSED UP BIG TIME RIGHT THERE!!

    IT IS NOT A MISTAKE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO WORK. THEY NEED MONEY, THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT. TOO BAD FOR YOU GUYS FOR MAKING THAT DECISION NOT TO.


    @Kratos...stfu your last 2 comments are juvenile and senseless! Vale isn't going to loose 1 million for filling the lawsuit, and who gives if they don't get it from them, its a loss for the 6500 either way for putting those pictures up to begin with. If my face was up there, I'd file my own lawsuit.

    I had backed up these guys for a while now, but this, wow. Idiots!!

  • PM me thinks Kraptos624 has a man crush on you.
    I sense a "scab" class action suit against this website coming on soon too..

  • @ DawnS:These posts are just speculation and conjecture... They are allegations that have yet to go before a Canadian court...So far vale is the only one that has been caught breaking the LAW...They are in court in NFLD. Right now... They are being sued for 29 million dollars U.S for trying to pull a fast one,they got caught NOT paying their fair share of royalties...They got caught shipping STRUCK ORE to Manitoba...Trailers were loaded with Voisey's Bay ore that was stored at Clarabelle.The USW took down trailer numbers and Lo and behold those trailers showed up at Thompson in the dead of night...The Manitoba Ministry of Labour was given the report and the practice was SHUT DOWN...So the FOREIGN "lawful, moral company" got caught breaking the law , and yet you all have the nerve to call the Steelworkers lawless and paint them all with a wide all-inclusive brush....

  • I agree with Philip Morris The Strike has been Won by Vale hands down. The union is trying to use 1960 style bullying tatics 50 years to late. Vale has such a good case only a corrupt judge would not rule in their favour. Memo to all Vale union members - Vote down your leadership they have cost you a years income for their own selfish reasons.

  • Try and get rid of anything that will help spread the word about Vale right? I'm glad Vale has lost money, and has to spend all that money on their shanty-town! LOL Add another lost million to the books Vale, and try and get it back from the 6500. Pathetic tactics, almost as pathetic as Phillip Morris's posts. We know that it's you Phillip with all of the multiple accounts, because the only other Vale Supporter cannot string a sentence together without misplaced plurals, and horrid spelling mistakes! LMAO!

  • HAHAHA Another Million Lost for VALE! Just add it to the Multiple OTHER MILLIONS LOST! AHAHAHAHAHA

  • That's it Vale, keep suing us. Soon we'll have enough for a charge of vexatious litigation. I thought you guys had good lawyers?

  • The Union made a big mistake when they accepted the offer to extend the contract long enough to comple shut down work, now Vale is screwing us, that was so planned...

  • Way to go Nobody Special, I liked your comment you right on the money!!! I'm happy that I'm not the only one that think there a bunch of greedy du......hahaha

  • These posts are just speculation and conjecture... They are allegations that have yet to go to a Canadian court...So far vale is the only one that has been caught breaking the LAW...They are in court in NFLD. Right now... They are being sued for 29 million dollars U.S for trying to pull a fast one,they got caught NOT paying their fair share of royalties...They got caught shipping STRUCK ORE to Manitoba...Trailers were loaded with Voisey's Bay ore that was stored at Clarabelle.The USW took down trailer numbers and Lo and behold those trailers showed up at Thompson in the dead of night...The Manitoba Ministry of Labour was given the report and the practice was SHUT DOWN...So "the lawful, moral company" got caught breaking the law , and yet you all haves the nerve to call the Steelworkers lawless and paint them with a wide all-inclusive brush....

  • 2323 the real theives at inco are staff, since the strike millions of dollars of stuff has went missing. All lockers broken into and stolen! recall staff stealing whole vehicle from underground ect! Vale should wake up and deal with the real problem!

  • The same slanderous comments that 6500 is accused of are also posted on the city owned Greensudbury website.www

    www.greensudbury.ca/comments

  • I hope Vale takes them to the cleaners...the website promotes hatred as far as I'm concerned.

    Go VALE!!!

  • Hey MR Green_Mile.....What make you think I wrote from Brazil.....I'm closer to you then you Think BUDDY...It's just the truth & I'm Honnest about my previous comment....Good Luck ☺

  • THANKS for the compliment camoman...have a great day!!! I'm happy that other people think like me......

  • @averagejoe:...FACT...Vale is in a bitter labour dispute in 3 out of the 4 Canadian operations…Sudbury’s operation loses HUGE money when it operates at partial production, Sudbury’s bylaw doesn’t allow vale to put in bunkhouses….. They must put up their outside hired help in hotel rooms, At a great cost to vale … Thompson Manitoba needs 30% feed from Ontario and Voisey’s Bay so they can operate at 100%.... Manitoba has a struck ore law, so vale can not legally take ore from Sudbury or Voisey’s bay…… They must buy it from abroad… at current price it is probably quite expensive…. But Canadian ore is still in the ground....vale will continue to LOSE money until this labour dispute is resolved....
    In Canada that is…

    How long can vale keep LOSING millions every day, before the share holders start wondering and asking why.....

  • @Phillip Morris: Sorry CHUM....But your post is full of speculation and conjecture... These are allegations that have yet to go to a Canadian court...So far vale is the only one that has been caught breaking the LAW...They are in court in NFLD. right now... They are being sued for 29 million dollars U.S for trying to pull a fast one,they got caught NOT paying their fair share of royalties...They got caught shipping STRUCK ORE to Manitoba...Trailers were loaded with Voisey's Bay ore that was stored at Clarabelle.The USW took down trailer numbers and Lo and behold those trailers showed up at Thompson in the dead of night...The Manitoba Ministry of Labour was given the report and the practice was SHUT DOWN...So "the lawful, moral company" got caught breaking the law , yet you all has the nerve to call Steelworkers lawless with a wide all-inclusive brush....

  • oops, double posted somehow!

  • It is interesting how 6500 puts a one line statement on their website that tells people not to post photos and names of scabs, but then still has a section on the site to post photos and names of scabs. They don't even bother to remove the posted photos, or the section completely. I am sure Fera's response to people wearing masks would be that it is cold outside and they need to keep warm.
    Many of 6500's members are good people. Why do they let their colleagues intimidate others then act like they are innocent? By not doing anything, they support it. If it were my union, I would want these guys out because they kill our bargaining power. If you behave in a civilized manner, you will command more respect. Currently, 6500 has next to no respect with the community and company.

    Operations since the startup have never been smoother. Jobs are being done in half the time with half the men. Why doesn't the union propose performance bonuses, propose a commitment to getting rid of their bad apples, propose to be a more dedicated and efficient workforce? Instead, the union will try to negotiate a re-hire of their thugs that got fired during the strike. Why would you want to keep these guys? Where is the common sense? It is the new world now, you have to earn your money. Money for nothing doesn't exist anymore. Go back to work 6500.

  • 2323 I wonder who this is???????? Can't even spell his own countries name right. How did you afford that computer working for VALE over there????????? YOUR MAKING TO MUCH MONEY!!! And just because theres a new boss doesnt mean that these guys are going to sit down and get S#!T on.

  • Funny how that allegations can be taken as fact. No one has been convicted yet. Only the Todd incident has any charges laid and those are only Civil in nature, not criminal.

    The Web site law suit is based on opinion, speculation and in some instance nonsense. It really is quite laughable and is very evident it is just a media ploy to further their smear campaign against us.

    As far as the operations running smoother than ever and them running it without us perhaps take a look at Vale's year end financial statements and their own numbers will tell you that the start up and ramp up failed.

    With nowhere to turn and failing production from their restart plans, fruitless and baseless law suits they have taken the only path forward which will truly return them to profitability. Bargaining! Bargaining a "Fair Deal"!

  • Just listened to the redneck POWT from West Virginia on CBC telling the trained seals at the union hall how violence can solve all their problems. Much applause and childish giggling from the thug gallery.
    If I had even the slightest bit of sympathy for these goons it’s gone by the wayside now.
    Perhaps it’s time for any of the descent members that are left to get rid of this scum.

  • Funny how that allegations can be taken as fact. No one has been convicted yet. Only the Todd incident has any charges laid and those are only Civil in nature, not criminal.

    The Web site law suit is based on opinion, speculation and in some instance nonsense. It really is quite laughable and is very evident it is just a media ploy to further their smear campaign against us.

    As far as the operations running smoother than ever and them running it without us perhaps take a look at Vale's year end financial statements and their own numbers will tell you that the start up and ramp up failed.

    With nowhere to turn and failing production from their restart plans, fruitless and baseless law suits they have taken the only path forward which will truly return them to profitability. Bargaining! Bargaining a "Fair Deal"!

  • Averagejoe, I agree with You, things would change a lot if the bonus was performance based, the bad workers would have to change their attitudes.

  • 2323, time, money, do you know anything, it never took unuion boys that long to start up!!!!

  • It is interesting how 6500 puts a one line statement on their website that tells people not to post photos and names of scabs, but then still has a section on the site to post photos and names of scabs. They don't even bother to remove the posted photos, or the section completely. I am sure Fera's response to people wearing masks would be that it is cold outside and they need to keep warm.
    Many of 6500's members are good people. Why do they let their colleagues intimidate others then act like they are innocent? By not doing anything, they support it. If it were my union, I would want these guys out because they kill our bargaining power. If you behave in a civilized manner, you will command more respect. Currently, 6500 has next to no respect with the community and company.

    Operations since the startup have never been smoother. Jobs are being done in half the time with half the men. Why doesn't the union propose performance bonuses, propose a commitment to getting rid of their bad apples, propose to be a more dedicated and efficient workforce? Instead, the union will try to negotiate a re-hire of their thugs that got fired during the strike. Why would you want to keep these guys? Where is the common sense? It is the new world now, you have to earn your money. Money for nothing doesn't exist anymore. Go back to work 6500.

  • 2323, time, money, do you know anything, it never took unuion boys that long to start up!!!!

  • @2323:...WOW...I don't even have to comment on your posts...
    Your literary prowess say’s it all for me.... Keep up the good work.....CHUM....

  • Why Vale Inco would settle when the job is WELL done NOW in LESS time and MONEY HELLLLLLLO...... DO THE MATH Guys!!!!!How many stuff have been stolen buy you guys IT"S about time the Company open there eyes...Good Luck

  • You'll see you is the REAL BOSS The BRESIL Are!!!! You guys don't have any chance...New Boss New working Condition, tuff luck butter cup!!!!! It's only fair...

  • How much worse can this public relations disaster of a strike get for 6500?

    Mounting debts by the union and its members. Loss after loss in labour court. Members arrested and charged with harassing and beating an innocent Vale worker. Others arrested on the pickets for threatening honest people just trying to earn a living. Police investigating acts of vandalism pointing at Steelworkers being responsible.
    Add to that heap the desperate and pathetic dragging of union members children to picket lines. Rallies that barely had a few hundred show. Empty picket shacks. Union members crossing the lines and 200+ giving up and taking their pensions.

    Now Vale continues to play by the rules. They won't be intimidated and are about to school the union in fair tactics.
    It's Over.

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