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Sorry to hear....hoping there was enough retires to avoid the lay-off..perhaps those guys with 36 years plus should go so save there brothers. I know my father took his pension to save the ...

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Jul 27, 2010

By: Heidi Ulrichsen - Sudbury Northern Life Staff

UPDATED July 27 at 3:16 p.m.

Steelworkers Local 6500 president John Fera said he feels terrible for 18 of his members who have been pinpointed by Vale for layoffs.

“It's just cruel to have to go through a year-long strike only to be laid off at the end,” he said.

The union told its members during contract ratification meetings earlier this month that 113 positions were being eliminated by Vale, but that they hoped to offset any layoffs through attrition.

Vale spokesperson Steve Ball said Vale actually needs to eliminate more positions than that.

More than 150 workers have already indicated that they are quitting or taking retirement packages, but it wasn't enough.

“First of all, the 113 number is a number that was shared with the 6500 bargaining committee, and it was indicated to them at that time that the number was far from final,” Ball said.

“They chose to disclose it publicly, so it's become a public number. But the number of positions we needed to eliminate was actually larger than 113.”

Fera said Vale never presented the 113 layoffs as a preliminary number during negotiations.

“Whomever is saying that is not telling you the truth,” he said. “That was the number.”

He said Local 6500 vice-president Rick Bertrand and Steelworkers international representative Myles Sullivan will meet with Vale's human resources manager tomorrow (July 28) to discuss the issue.

“This company has not been up front with us, and has not been truthful on a lot of different issues, and now we're seeing it again with the number of people that are being laid off,” Fera said.

When asked if the union plans to bring the matter to the Ontario Labour Relations Board, Fera said “that will be part of our discussions.”

Fera said the affected workers may be able to work at Vale's operations in Port Colborne, Ont. or Thompson, Man., but he hopes to be able to keep the jobs in Sudbury.

Local 6500 members were given until July 22 to tell the company that they intended to return to work after the nearly year-long strike, or they were considered to have voluntarily resigned. Those taking retirement packages have been given until Aug. 1 to do so.

Ball said the company began notifying the workers, who are represented by Steelworkers Local 6500, of the layoffs last night (July 26).

“Most people have been reached,” he said. “I understand that there's still some people that have to be reached at this point.”

The layoffs were based on seniority and on the “needs of the business,” Ball said. He said he's not sure which of the company's plants are affected by the layoffs, but said it's likely more than one plant.

Ball said it's “unfortunate” that layoffs have to occur, but that “tough decisions” had to be made.

When asked why Vale doesn't need the same number of people working in Sudbury as it did before the strike, Ball said the company's goal going into contract negotiations with Local 6500 last year was to make its operations in the city more efficient.

 

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31 Comments

  • Sorry to hear....hoping there was enough retires to avoid the lay-off..perhaps those guys with 36 years plus should go so save there brothers. I know my father took his pension to save the lay-offs of others.

  • Well,northside,i DID look at your 'reasons four posts down'.

    Excuse me,BUT,who exactly put you in charge of company- union relations? And what exactly is your occupation or position that gives you this power to dictate to unions what they should and should not ask for during negotiations?

    Unless you are an expert in in the global economy or foreign affairs,may i suggest you NOT worry about other peoples salaries and benefits,and concentrate on your own.

    Oh,of course,unless you are Noofie's assistant,then it becomes all clear

  • At a time when the company and union are entering a 5 year agreement, the union is almost busted, the old union scare tactics and work to rule policy are dinasaurs in terms of labour relations, it will be interesting to see if the new President is the goon he was during negotiations or if he'll prove he has diplomatic and negotiation skills that have been well hidden.
    Without these skills the strength and influence of the union will continue down the slippery slope Leo the Loser started them down last July

  • @Delaware,,You do not listen and learn do you...I gave you my reasons about 4 posts down,,Noofie explained it again to you again 2 posts after me and you still don't get it..It's like talking to a brick wall..It amazes me how someone can think the steelworkers are be alland end all of life after the way they handled themselves this last year..Actually, didn't handle themselves all that great with all their lies to the members about the fired 9 and other instances..Well,,they are all but broken and humiliated now so it will be an intresting 5 yrs. ahead if they will still be at Vale at the end of this contract...time will tell and I will be around to remind you..........

  • Unfortunately,Noof/Northguy/Northside......you DONT have 'carte blanche' to dictate how other people live their lives.

    Perhaps,WE should tell YOU.......who to marry,which house to buy,which car to own............

    Funny how you rant about socialism and communism,and here YOU are,telling people how much money they should be working for

    Your audacity NEVER ceases to amaze me

  • @ Delawho
    I'm back from NL. Cornerbrook is a great place, close to home for me but it looks like the USW are gonna get a major ass kicking with the Vale BBF suit so there's nothing for a blogger there.

    Over the months Dela, those of us you refer to as "union bashers" offered our opinion of the strike based on our considerable experience, the global economy, the structure of Vale and the attitude of the USW of A. Had the membership followed our advice, they would have accepted the initial offer and been $75,000 ahead, or they would have accepted the March offer (which Fera admitted was misrepresented to the membership.......he lied!)and been $18,000 ahead of where they find themselves now.
    Your inability to understand that the Vale vs USW situation is not at all similar to what your Father experienced 20 years ago reflects that of Leo and his Losers who wouldn't admit until Fraser did and it was too late then, that Vale was too big.
    Your blind support of the USW didn't do anyone any good Delaware. You had the opportunity to offer a voice of reason from an Inco family and blew it.

  • If you union diehards haven't figured it out by now, you never will... it's been explained repeatedly but apparently, some have comprehension problems. Just carry on with the Leo worshiping.

  • My agenda is to try to educate these union people the stupidness of their actions..Striking in the depths of a serious recession..The attitude of us vs. them..The Leo Girard plan of global union and eventually holding every business hostage..The workers themselves for not thinking for themselves but following blindly because some leader says it is the way to go..Following the socialist/communist ways of the NDP where the workers have all the power and business comes second without realizing that business makes the would go round in a free society..I could go on but am tired of typing.............

  • Just curious,can all you union bashers explain what your agenda is on these posts??

    I will tell you mine.As much as i dont work in the mines,my dad,uncles and several friends and relatives do.I know how hard they worked to provide a good living for us.Therefore,i have spent the past few months defending their RIGHT to strike,like ANY OTHER unionized group can do.

    On the other hand,YOU people have spent months insulting,taunting and belittling the strikers for excercizing their rights.

    So,my question is..............your agenda is??????????????

  • Twiddle Dumb and Twiddle Dumber Northern Guy
    She's got a GA degree from a div 3 college in the us and 4 paper routes

  • I see that the babies have been crying again. Some like to dish it out but can't take it, eh cynnical and delaweird.

  • Better question cellardoor, is why is it that no one cared that they are profiting off Canada's resources a few years ago when the bonus cheques were pouring in? It only seemed to become a concern to the workers once the gravy train slowed down.

    By the way, Canada drills more Brazillian oil than any other Country in the world. Maybe you should go petition our Canadian owned companies. After all, we are profiting off Brazilian Resources and by your retarded view, we are taking away their culture and heritage in doing so right?

  • Vale and Xtrata will suck all the wealth out of our resources and ship all the money to Brazil and Europe.

  • cellar (and others) ... the resources are NOT yours. They belong to the company who has the money to get them out of the ground. What part of this do you not understand?

    I swear, some of you union socialists have no conception of how things really work.

    What are you referring to when you mention loosing culture and heritage? Please explain.

  • Cellardoor you will never get the ANTI'S on this site to change their great love for VALE'S tactics, sad state of affairs for this community and country!

  • And really..why is it that no one on here cares that they're profiting off OUR RESOURCES, a supply, that is from SUDBURY, are you all loosing your culture and heritage? Do you not care about what happens in your community?

  • FIRST OFF. Their profits rose 384% this quarter because previously THEY WERE NOT IN PRODUCTION. Doesn't mean they made a sh!t load of cash, it just means, now they're making money.

    Now, it is proven that Vale lay's off their workers so that they can keep a full supply of new hires so they don't pay out more benefits, raises ect.. I'm willing to bet these guys who got laid off, weren't lazy bums, they may have been at the bottom or maybe just because they had seniority. It was done to preserve profits, profits they make off OUR products.

    MEANING: Vale is liking the way they're getting more money, so why not lay off a few dozen people to keep those profits for themselves? Its business, unfortunately, these guys are heartless and are willing to protect their profits.

  • Northern Guy is on here venting because mom said he couldn't play X-Box anymore......carry on as if you were normal there kid!

  • P.S.By the way,N.Guy,now that Vale`s profits have increased by 384%,remind me again how the union was `greedy`` last year in just asking for a ZERO increase in their contract

    Being a `Rhodes scholar``,im sure you will have no problem answering

  • Actually,Northern Guy,after reading many of your bitter,vindictive posts,i have no problem whatsoever to decipher what and who you are

  • Obviously,my little adversaries have NOT followed my posts.Im simply here to 'back up' my father who put in forty years at Inco.

    I have a university education,involved in four different business ventures,and will certainly relish 'sparring' with you 'gentlemen'

  • Del, just think, if you had been working with your new CBA, the one you could have had a year ago and again in March, you would get a bonus cheque based on Vale profits.
    Sadly, you were not and because the new CBA is suspended under the BTWP you cant even grieve it.

  • Gee,Northern Guy,profits 'only' rose 384% for Vale.......no wonder they have to lay off 18 guys.Think of that while your flipping burgers

  • Ahhhhhh Northern Guy your comments are always so insightful, or not!Seems as though you don't work like you pointed out to a few individuals, giulty by your own words!!Carry on as if you were normal and not the bitter little person you are.....BOA NOITE!!!!

  • Go to the SS and read Bat_man's comments........

    Here is the link...
    http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2686916

    Thanks......

  • When better to kick someone, than when their down...Eh...

  • Delaware... 'More efficient'....ie, more profit for the company, no jobs for losers. They'd rather keep the hard-working replacements. Sucks to be you.

  • Before the spell-check police pounce on me... greaner = greener.

  • I'd be willing to bet that these 18 all sport labotomy scars.
    RobetHood/Melonbob... didn't you move to greaner pastures? When do you ever work? Seems like your on these blogs every day.

  • 'More efficient'....ie,more profit for the company,less jobs and money for the workers

  • Go to the SS and read Bat_man's comments........

    Here is the link...
    http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2686916

    Thanks......