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Rite on Noofie!!!! Tell it like it is man! One would think that 6500 should realize they didn't buy the company......might be a good time to have 6500 raise union due's!!!!..LOL!....I mean there is a...

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Jul 30, 2010

By: Heidi Ulrichsen - Sudbury Northern Life Staff

Rick Bertrand, the incoming president of Steelworkers Local 6500, said he was unable to convince Vale to reverse its decision to lay off 18 workers during a meeting between the two parties July 28.

“No, I don't think (the meeting) was positive,” he said.

“If we had come out with no layoffs, I would have been saying that it was positive. We went in there hoping to avoid the layoffs. We were unsuccessful when it came to that.”

Union leaders said they were told by Vale during contract negotiations that 113 positions would be eliminated, although the company maintains that was never a final number.

The union had hoped to offset any layoffs through members who had quit or who have taken retirement packages.

However, despite the 150 workers who have quit or taken retirement packages, Vale confirmed earlier this week that 18 workers have been laid off.

Bertrand said he did find out during the meeting that all but one of the 18 workers will "have opportunities” to take positions at Vale's operations in Thompson, Man. or Port Colborne, Ont. When asked why one of the workers was not offered a position elsewhere, Bertrand said "that's something we're looking into right now."

When contacted by e-mail to comment on the meeting about the layoffs, Vale spokesperson Steve Ball said the meeting was “satisfactory from our perspective. The details of what was discussed are between the company and the USW, and we will not be sharing them publicly.”

Bertrand said the union is also currently waiting for a ruling from the Ontario Labour Relations Board as to how eight workers fired by Vale during the strike will be dealt with.

The union is asking that the labour relations board allow a provincial arbitrator to make the decision about whether or not the fired workers should be taken back by Vale.

Both parties presented their case at a July 13 hearing, but the labour board has not yet rendered a decision.

“God, it's eating me up,” Bertrand said. “No, we haven't heard anything yet. Hopefully we'll get that answer soon, and it better be positive.”

Bertrand also said he'll announce who his new vice-president is on Aug. 3.

Local 6500 president John Fera announced last week he will be retiring from both his position from the union and from Vale as of Aug. 1.

Under the union's constitution, Bertrand, as the vice-president of the union, automatically becomes president.

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18 Comments

  • Rite on Noofie!!!! Tell it like it is man! One would think that 6500 should realize they didn't buy the company......might be a good time to have 6500 raise union due's!!!!..LOL!....I mean there is a global recession.!!..LOL!..God these scholars running the 6500 union makes me laugh!!!

  • How about.....Get a job.

  • Just curious,Noof,if your NOT a paid vale blogger,or on their payroll,how can you possibly know....'Vale will be a good place to work'????????

  • Read the NL article above. This Patterson typifies the old school union understanding of the work place. He seems convinced that the Union Stewards hold the solution to all complaints.
    When people like Patterson are gone, Vale Sudbury will once again be a good place to work

  • Maybe the Grim Reaper costumed Mensa candidate will be VP?
    Must feel great to pay hundreds in union dues, knowing the outstanding quality of people speaking for you. LOL

  • This union is not smart at all with low IQ and EQ!!!! Workers need to choose someone with more conscious mind, not a heroic mind!!!

    I also do not think they told their members completely all discussion with vale prior to the voting.

    JF is retiring with 30k after leaving those workers in shit??????

  • Hey,i have a good idea.How about Noofie for president,and Northside for vice.These guys seem to know it all.Oh,thats right,i forgot.........they are in Vale's 'back pocket'

  • The days of "bully" leaders are all but over,,nowhere to go but down,,need people to lead with the ability to use common sense,,don't see any so far,,who will he appoint as VP on Aug. 3rd.,,Someone with the same vision as him will cause Vale to take a tougher stand which will further erode the 6500 union,,as if it hasn't been eroded enough already,,Going to be an interesting week,,stay tuned......

  • Ricky...Bertand is one loose cannon with foresnic input...get rid of this convict...decertify with Ministy of Labour and get a Canadian Union like Xstrada has for their miners...why hang out with loosers that go to retirement to their camps with whole salaries and leave all of us with convicts?? let all of us members demand a Canadian union instead of at Pittsburg/Yankee union.

  • If it goes Vales way, Tricky Ricky is gonna be "seething mad" like he was when 2020 didnt vote strike like their leaders demanded them to. Ricky thinks people should listen to the idiots that get voted in to USW leadership as if they are the intelligent ones to spread the word to their sheep that they care for so much. Sorry ricky, who gives a damn if it doesnt go your way. What will you do? Tell us.

  • Was not Rick Bertand one of the three that beat up that jogger on Southview? Who cares about his opinion, the whole union is down the tubes unless they decertify with this criminal element and demand a Canadian union for Canadian miners in a Northern Ontario context. Otherwise VALE will walk all over them while they deal with little crimanal Hitlers.

  • Hope all you ANTI'S have a great weekend worrying about how well VALE is doing while I'm at camp.....BOA NOITE!

  • First off NS I never did condone the radical behaviour and never will, secondly I take offense to every windbag on here bashing the decent and hard working members of 6500 which there are a good many even though you anti's will not admit it!And to you NG apparently you can comment on it because we're on here discussing it aren't we.....just saying!!!

  • Nice to see ALL the regular windbags spewing their version of reality on here....truth is people STILL leaving daily and why is there still layoffs?VALE wouldn't intentionally misrepresent the truth would they?

  • NS,yep I'm thinking we may hear "pissed off" yet again. And I prefer not to think he made the remark as a threat but indeed it was my impression. Might wnat to check the code of ethics.
    NG, I am not taking the bet on the VP/PV but am looking forward to formation of usw local 001/2 at the Busy Bee.

  • jaw, missed that part about it "better be positive", kind of like a threat eh? maybe he will be pissed off again do ya think?...........

  • "” Bertrand said. “No, we haven't heard anything yet. Hopefully we'll get that answer soon, and it better be positive.”

    And when it is not positive, what then? Will we see him do a meltdown?

  • Mr. Bertrand, do you think that the one guy that won't be given another job may be one of the go-team that was painting cars and slashing tires. Just wondering and will you let us know so we can have some sense of satisfaction of knowing that justice was done for at least one of these guys acting like school yard bullies.........