Sudbury candidates spar on social issues

Sudbury NDP candidate Paul Loewenberg speaks at a debate addressing social issues in the council chambers at Tom Davies Square Sept. 12. He was joined in the debate by Green Party candidate Pat Rogerson and incumbent Liberal candidate Rick Bartolucci. Progressive Conservative candidate Gerry Labelle did not attend the debate. Photo by Heidi Ulrichsen.

Sudbury NDP candidate Paul Loewenberg speaks at a debate addressing social issues in the council chambers at Tom Davies Square Sept. 12. He was joined in the debate by Green Party candidate Pat Rogerson and incumbent Liberal candidate Rick Bartolucci. Progressive Conservative candidate Gerry Labelle did not attend the debate. Photo by Heidi Ulrichsen.

Sep 13, 2011- 11:22 AM

By: Heidi Ulrichsen - Sudbury Northern Life Staff

After mostly sticking to an explanation of their platforms throughout a Sept. 12 social issues debate, the other candidates threw a few barbs at incumbent Liberal Sudbury candidate Rick Bartolucci in their closing statements.

The debate, organized by the Social Planning Council of Sudbury, YWCA Sudbury and YMCA Sudbury, took place in the council chambers at Tom Davies Square.

Although all four Sudbury candidates were invited, Progressive Conservative candidate Gerry Labelle did not participate.

In his own closing statement, Bartolucci said his government had brought “incredible investment” of $7.3 billion to Greater Sudbury over the past eight years.

However, Green Party candidate Pat Rogerson reminded Bartolucci that this money comes from taxpayers.

“I know that Rick sometimes forgets, and says that he brought it, but we all know that this money came from the provincial government, the government of Ontario, funded by Ontario taxpayers,” she said. “We would have gotten it anyway.”

Throughout the debate, Bartolucci spoke several times about how the NDP and Progressive Conservatives had voted against various programs to improve social conditions.

“It's easy to recount what the PCs and NDP have voted against,” NDP candidate Paul Loewenberg said, in his closing statement.

“Well, we were in opposition. I would say we often vote no because we take exception to the method of delivery, not that the ideas are bad. There just needs to be accountability.”

Before an audience of about 100 people, the candidates answered questions about a wide range of social issues, including homelessness, poverty, mental health, child care, replacement workers and post-secondary tuition fees.

Loewenberg started his response to a question about his party's stance on reducing homelessness and increasing affordable housing by citing several grim statistics. He said one in five Ontario tenants pay half of their wages to rent, and there are 150,000 households on affordable housing waiting lists, representing an 18 per cent increase from 2009.

Loewenberg proposed a number of solutions, including building more affordable housing, repairing existing substandard housing, better tenants' rights and licensing landlords.

Bartolucci, the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing, said that “what Paul forgot to tell you is that homelessness is not mentioned in the NDP platform.”

As part of a partnership with the federal government, the province has spent $2.5 billion on affordable housing in recent years, with more investments planned for the future, he said.

“That only touches one part of the homelessness problem,” Bartolucci said. “We have to ensure that we couple homeless programs with housing programs. We heard from the stakeholders from across the province of Ontario that it's not good enough to just have programs, they have to be co-ordinated programs. And that's what we've done.”

Rogerson, who has a background in working with local non-profits on homelessness initiatives, said homelessness has been reduced in the city by 20 per cent in recent years, but that was the “easy 20 per cent.”

“The chronically ill, those with mental illness and those coming out of abusive relationships cannot afford to be dropped into an apartment where they're (on Ontario Works), and be expected to live,” she said. “They need a support system, and it's just not there.”

She said the $120,000 the province provides to build each affordable housing unit is not enough “to get a unit up.”

A member of the audience asked the candidates to speak about their parties' stance on legislation around the use of replacement workers during labour disputes.

Bartolucci said while his party does not believe in banning replacement workers, he disagrees with this policy.

“I voted against the use of replacement workers on three occasions in the Ontario legislature,” he said. “My party does not agree with me. You see, in the Liberal party, we have the right to disagree.”

He said his government “believes the best solution is a negotiated solution,” and provincial-led mediation is what eventually resolved the 2009-2010 Vale strike.

Loewenberg said it's clear where the NDP stands on the issue of replacement workers, as Nickel Belt NDP incumbent France Gélinas has introduced legislation to ban their use.

“(Using replacement workers) divides the community, and it stops the ability for a group of people to collectively bargain for the best deal possible with the company,” he said. “We have to ban them, and we have to get this legislation through.”

Rogerson said her party supports passing legislation to ban replacement workers.

“Basically, I guess, my party and I are in agreement on this,” she said. “We don't want replacement workers.”

-Posted by Heidi Ulrichsen
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10 Comments

  • The homeless situation in Ontario or Canada for that matter can not be solved by throwing up more buildings. The vast majority of the homeless are actually those with diagnosed mental conditions, who while supervised and kept on medications are able to keep their heads above water. The trouble is the government cut the funding for the homes that provided this care or out sourced the care to "profit first" care providers. Who quickly labelled the challenging clients as abusive and refused them service (a.k.a. kicked them out).

    These individuals (in Sudbury) take up almost 80-85% of the social programs for the homeless, 10% are addiction related and the remainder bounce in and out of homelessness depending on what happens financially that month and there is a small percentage 1-0.5% who abuse the system. (Based on a study done in 2007 by Laurentian University Social Dept)

  • Right on Darcy! Our fascination with the liberal party is that they have actually done soemthing right! The lives of our children are our most cherished and prized responsibilities. Our children’s health reflects how we are doing both as a province and a country.
    The evidence is there ..we have supported our kids through the proper use of taxpayers money ...and its improving !
    Mr Bartolucci should be congratulated for his Liberal support group.I have never seen such a group of morticians do such a stand up job.Time to retire Rick ! you've done a great job! Kudo's to you ...You've done your time.

  • NDP

  • I will never fully understand the city of Sudbury's fascination with the Liberal Party of Ontario or Canada. Rick Bartolucci has been in office for 16 years now. Sixteen years! Sure he has accomplished lots, but he also has thirty years of teaching experience. I don't want to sound mean, but it's time to retire and live a good life, Mr. Bartolucci! Make room for someone new, please!? Most important to my comments is two answers I would like to receive. Why were you removed as minister of community safety!? Also, for so many people who suffered as a result of the Vale strike, why did you hide and become neutral? This city could have used your support and yet you were really nowhere to be found. Time to give it up, you're beginning to fail this city. You are no longer as great as you once were.

  • What is everyone getting excited about??? Of course the Liberals and Mr. Bartolucci have their minds firmly on the impoverished. Look how much money they are prepared to blow on the School of Architecture for all the poor homeless architectural academics. Also, how else will the young people ever learn about the needs of the impoverished, sick, elderly and homeless if they are not housed in nice comfy student quarters downtown??

  • Sounds to me like Labelle is either mussled by his party or he is too scared/uninformed/uninterested in participating in a public dicussion over policies affecting this region. This is NOT the kind of person we want representing this city.

  • I just Emailed Labelle to find out if he will be a no-show agian this thursday at Laurentian University. I eagerly await his reply!

  • CBC radio this morning said that Mr. Labelle was invited but did not participate. Unfortunately, it did not say why he did not participate.

    Didn't the federal Tory candidate also miss the debate during the federal campaign? Interesting.

  • Come over to facebook and check out Romeo Saganash for NDP Leaderhsip.

  • How can you have a meaningful debate if PC candidate Gerry Labelle did not participate in it? Very disappointing.

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